So who has Yosemite Installed? Whats your thoughts?

[TerryB]

I'm on Yosemite 10.10 on a brand new MacBook Air, so I'm not sure which changes are the computer and which are the OS. It's taking a little getting used to, but it's much faster and most of the programs work as expected. Mail was a little wonky, so I just surrendered and loaded Thunderbird instead.

Micro$oft hasn't upgraded the Office Suite since 2011, so I didn't even want to try and load that onto this computer. I'm doing my level best to learn Pages, Numbers and Keynote - all programs that I avoided for years. If I can learn to love those, I will be happy. I just hate to keep giving money to gates et al.

FWIW I didn't use the migration assistant, since my other two computers (mac mini 2007 and MBPro 2007) were just too old. So what I did was a massive backup of both older computers onto a 2 TB external drive. Then I did a clean up of those files and merged duplicates, etc. Then I copied all relevant and updated folders onto my new laptop. It was actually very fast. That way any anomalies on the old computers weren't copied onto the new laptop. I could be wrong and I may discover things I wish I had done differently. (probably while traveling in some foreign country...) But for now, this is an intuitive, fast, and easy OS to use.

 

[TerryB]

Oh my...
Now I'm really glad I went back to Mavericks.
Rootpipe — Critical Mac OS X Yosemite Vulnerability Allows Root Access Without Password
Hope Apple fixes it soon for all you other people.

So do I understand this correctly:
1) This has been around since Mtn Lion and maybe earlier
2) person has to be sitting in front of your computer unless you have remote access enabled
2) Easiest protection is to not use Admin logon on a regular basis
3) Article says use filevault, another poster says to not use filevault because it's vulnerable to this attack (which is it?)
4) Oh, and turn off remote access unless you absolutely need it

Did I miss anything?
maybe the usual, "don't use public WiFi to log onto your computer

 

[vansmith]

Micro$oft hasn't upgraded the Office Suite since 2011, so I didn't even want to try and load that onto this computer.

It runs perfectly fine on Yosemite.

I'm doing my level best to learn Pages, Numbers and Keynote - all programs that I avoided for years. If I can learn to love those, I will be happy.

Those will suit you well if you have basic needs. However, if you need the power of Office, it is compatible.

I just hate to keep giving money to gates et al.

May I ask why?

 

[wrf1984]

I hate hate HATE the way the dock moves back and forth, both under Mavericks, and now, Yosemite. This is for those of us with multiple monitors only. The SLIGHTEST movement to the bottom of the screen in Finder AND in some applications switches the dock to that window. It can often be frustratingly difficult to change it back. I have one monitor for all the stuff I'm working on, the dock, etc., the the other clear for working in apps--as I suspect most do who have dual monitors. This automatic "switch" screws up that paradigm. A simple button in the "Dock" preference pane that says "don't allow Dock to float" or something would solve this problem.

 

[cradom]

Pick a monitor and put the Dock on the side. End of problem.

 

[TerryB]

It runs perfectly fine on Yosemite.

Those will suit you well if you have basic needs. However, if you need the power of Office, it is compatible.

May I ask why?

Thanks for the heads up on Office 2011. I'll give it a shot.

Re your question - it's personal. I know him.

 

[Thymen]

Since Yosemite came out, I have used it on my system. I have an internal drive, that I left on Mavericks, and an external SSD on Thunderbolt that I upgraded from Mavericks to Yosemite.

Except for just a few programs that I do not actually need to work immediately (Trim enabler, Global Protect for VPN) everything has been working fine so far.

So yesterday I took the plunge and did a clean install on the internal HDD. Will tool that up with all applications in the next couple of days, work with it for some time, and then if everything is stil fine, clone that installation to the SSD do I'll have a clone of a clean install on it.

All my data is saved on multiple external disks, with backups on both Time Machine and a NAS system. So I think I am quite safe, and even if I have to go back to Mavericks the only thing it will cost me is some time.

I found the transition from Mavericks to Yosemite going smoother than from Mountain Lion to Mavericks; that caused me a lot of headaches, because my Windows 7 partition was somehow not bootable anymore. Took a while to figure out how to repair that. But with Yosemite, so far not a glitch!

The interface I am already used to, in my opinion it is an improvement. So far, all in all quite happy with it.

 

[Lifeisabeach]

FYI... a Yosemite-compatible version of Onyx is now available. If you are still having lingering issues with Yosemite, you know the drill. Run the full suite of maintenance and cleaning tools and hopefully that will iron out your bugs. I'd also do a PRAM reset if not yet tried.

OnyX for Mac | MacUpdate

 

[midway40]

2) Easiest protection is to not use Admin logon on a regular basis

I read about this somewhere (and for the life of me I can't find it again). I created an admin account, logged out of my account into admin and then changed my account to standard. Now it kind of reminds me of Linux su (not sudo as in Ubuntu and its derivatives) when I am on my Mac.

 

[Mojoron]

Newbie here

Although I'm a newbie to this forum, I have been using Apple since 1979, in one form or another (Franklin, UMAX), except for the original OSX versions where printing was always an issue with new OSX updates, Yosemite has been a bear to use for many reasons. I purchased my third MBA about the time of the 10.10 system upgrade, and wouldn't you know it, when I received my new MBA it didn't have 10.10 on it (this was about three weeks after 10.10 was released). All the way from China with an old OS on it! In order to use Migration Assistant on my new MBA, I had to upgrade the OS and all the App's prior to Migration. That took me about three hours. I have lost my Keynote, Garage Band and Numbers ability to upgrade since my new MBA is saying that I purchased them under a different Apple ID, which I didn't, obviously, and Apple won't allow me to upgrade. My heart is not broken by not being able to upgrade GB, but the others? I use and upgraded Pages with no problems, go figure.

The first issue I had with the new MBA was JavaScript Legacy (SE 6) warning dialogue boxes that I could not get rid of without starting the MBA in the Safe Mode. Finally, after scouting the Apple Discussion Forums, I found the download, from an obscure JavaScript download screen, thanks to a 16 y/o student! I'm still scared of the potential security issues with this Legacy Download, but what am I to do?

I was reading an article on one of the Apple blogs, I believe it was OSX Daily, where one of the writers was complaining about OSX and IO8, I went to click on the "read more" link and guess what, Safari crashed! Not only did it crash once, but three times when I clicked the article. Go figure, was Apple po'ed about the article?. What a prophetic link!

Other annoying Apple App's, and one that is continual and always requires "fixes" is Mail. Odd things happen, email addresses stay on the screen as little "boxes" that I can't get rid of unless I quit Mail and restart; my email accounts lose their passwords and Mail is always asking me to sign in. Having saved my emails in IOS doesn't necessarily mean that they will still be on my MBA, so I have to be very careful when filing my emails, on IOS.

Like Microsoft Windows, OSX has become so complex, especially in trying to sync with IOS's and iCloud, that problems are sure to present themselves. While, for the most part, I believe that OSX and IOS are superior to the garbage that MS puts out, the Apple OS's have a lot of work to do before they are completely smooth to use. I once read that OSX is becoming more like IOS, if that's the case, when will they become the same?

 

[vansmith]

The first issue I had with the new MBA was JavaScript Legacy (SE 6) warning dialogue boxes that I could not get rid of without starting the MBA in the Safe Mode. Finally, after scouting the Apple Discussion Forums, I found the download, from an obscure JavaScript download screen, thanks to a 16 y/o student! I'm still scared of the potential security issues with this Legacy Download, but what am I to do?

Just a semantic thing (and a tip for the future) - it's Java 6 SE, not JavaScript. The latter is supported by browsers, the former requires you to install software.

It would seem that a number of apps still require Java 6 support specifically. I'm using Flash Builder here which requires Java 6 support explicitly (can't use 7 or 8 for some reason) which, as you can imagine, is frustrating.

I once read that OSX is becoming more like IOS, if that's the case, when will they become the same?

Not anytime soon. You can't put a mobile OS on a notebook/desktop class machine and have it be of any use. I wouldn't worry too much about this one.

 

[toyotatacoma]

Does anyone know how to make the browser full screen in Yosemite? Previously you could expand it in the upper right hand corner, but that option is gone. I have no need to see the bottom bar when using the browser.

 

[vansmith]

You can push the green button to make it full screen or, if you hold down option and then the green button, it will "restore" the window (old behaviour).

 

[toyotatacoma]

You can push the green button to make it full screen or, if you hold down option and then the green button, it will "restore" the window (old behaviour).

That works. Thanks!

 

[Mojoron]

issues

Just a semantic thing (and a tip for the future) - it's Java 6 SE, not JavaScript. The latter is supported by browsers, the former requires you to install software.

It would seem that a number of apps still require Java 6 support specifically. I'm using Flash Builder here, which requires Java 6 support explicitly (can't use 7 or 8 for some reason) which, as you can imagine, is frustrating.

I have one application that I have used for a number of years and that is DragThing. I just can't seem to get along without it. It is light years ahead of what Apple offers, but it is dated. I also use RapdidWeaver for my web building, I'm not sure whether or not it is a Java issue either.

As far as my comment is concerned with IOS and OSX, there are some features in IOS that I wish OSX would copy, and that is auto search in Safari as your typing the URL. That is cool.

Continuity. When will it be available for the MBA or MBP? It may be available, but I don't see preferences for it.

As far as Java SE6 is concerned, will it be an issue with security? With Java up to 8, I'm sure they have plugged the many security holes that were causing issues, but will it protect back to SE 6?

I recently went to Europe and was trying to do a blog using Blogspot and my iPad which is running IOS8. The unfortunate problem I had with trying to blog and publish pictures is that Blogspot didn't know that pictures are not in the old iPhoto file, but in the Pictures file. IOS doesn't support iPhoto, but OSX does. Does that make sense to anyone?

 

[Rod]

I hate hate HATE the way the dock moves back and forth, both under Mavericks, and now, Yosemite. This is for those of us with multiple monitors only. The SLIGHTEST movement to the bottom of the screen in Finder AND in some applications switches the dock to that window. It can often be frustratingly difficult to change it back. I have one monitor for all the stuff I'm working on, the dock, etc., the the other clear for working in apps--as I suspect most do who have dual monitors. This automatic "switch" screws up that paradigm. A simple button in the "Dock" preference pane that says "don't allow Dock to float" or something would solve this problem.

I'm a bit puzzled at your complaints about the dock. When you say it moves back and forward do you mean it is too long to fit on the monitor? If so why not shrink it to fit the monitor and turn on magnification or remove some of the apps you don't use.
I do know what you mean about multiple windows though, I have pretty much overcome this by using Mission Control as a Hot corner top right. That way not only can I see all open windows but multiple desktops as well and switch easily between them.

 

[Exodist]

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Not anytime soon. You can't put a mobile OS on a notebook/desktop class machine and have it be of any use. I wouldn't worry too much about this one.

You know I am not a Microsoft fan in anyway. But the latest Surface Pro 3 Tablet/PC begs to differ with you. It actually looks very nice and many users are commenting the latest patches to the UI are making it very useful. Windows 10 is speculated to make use even better, but thats speculation.

 

[Exodist]

I'm a bit puzzled at your complaints about the dock. ....

In 10.8 Mountain Lion the dock stayed fixed on what ever monitor you designated it to. In 10.9 Mavericks it will now follow you to the next monitor if it detects your curser has touched the bottom of the screen on that monitor. If your someone who likes to see their dock, but keep it on one screen. Yea this could be annoying as there is no way to make it stay on your primary display. Another reason this can be annoying is that if your dock pops up on say a display you like to run apps on maximized but not full full screen, it makes you app have a gap at the bottom of the screen. Another annoyance.

Now I got around this by just setting my dock to auto hide. So its hidden and no matter what screen I am on I just tap the bottom and my dock comes up, choose the app I want to run and it re hides its self and doesn't inter fear with my application running. I also have a logitech gaming mouse, so I have a button assigned to turn on and off autohide for my dock.

Setting the dock to Left or Right is very annoying. I cussed and raised **** when the morons at Ubuntu made the dock fixed to the left of my screen. When you got two wide screen displays, having to go way over to one screen and back to the other is a lot of extra wasted time. That and I have OCD so everything has to be balanced or it drives me to tears..

IMHO Apple needs to give the user the option to change the way their displays are handled when using extended desktop. They simply force the user to use them is if they are two displays and not give them the option to use them as one large display. Apple does great at pushing tech one the desktop to new levels, but has a tendency to completely fail at some basic task.

 

[Exodist]

So do I understand this correctly:
1) This has been around since Mtn Lion and maybe earlier
2) person has to be sitting in front of your computer unless you have remote access enabled
2) Easiest protection is to not use Admin logon on a regular basis
3) Article says use filevault, another poster says to not use filevault because it's vulnerable to this attack (which is it?)
4) Oh, and turn off remote access unless you absolutely need it

Did I miss anything?
maybe the usual, "don't use public WiFi to log onto your computer

Read my post on it from this thread..
http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/os...alled-whats-your-thoughts-22.html#post1617608

 

[Rod]

Ah yes, Exodist, I forgot to mention Autohide. Well picked. I almost take it for granted that everyone has it on.:Blushing: