Is anyone sorry that they switched?

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Just a thought, but if you're getting the menu and selecting "Open" then you ARE right clicking, whether you know it or not.

I'll agree that after years of using Windows, it's kinda like learning another language. Only, it's not completely different. It's sorta like OS X = English and Windows = Pig Latin.

No no no....Windows = English, OSX = Spanish.

No one ever speaks pig latin, almost every one speaks English, broken or not. A lot of people speak spanish, and a lot of English users get angry when Spanish speakers refuse to learn English.
 
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I can use the internet with no problem but if I try to use the applications on my system nothing opens when I click on it.

How are you using the internet without launching an application (Safari iow)?

The method you use to launch any application is the same that you use to launch Safari, i.e click on its Dock icon. To get it into the Dock you double click on it in the Applications folder (or wherever else you have put it) and it appears in the Dock with little black triangle showing that it is active.

If you double click on any file associated with an application the application will launch, whilst launching an applications Dock icon may bounce, this is normal, the icon will also bounce when the application is waiting for your input.

Amen-Moses
 
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No no no....Windows = English, OSX = Spanish.

No one ever speaks pig latin, almost every one speaks English, broken or not. A lot of people speak spanish, and a lot of English users get angry when Spanish speakers refuse to learn English.

I agree, English is the most illogical, poorly constructed and ambiguous language on the planet and one of the hardest to learn unless it is all you have ever known.

Amen-Moses
 

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It will take time and I will learn this. You are right about being accustomed to Windows. I use 98, 2000 and XP pro daily. I wanted to familiarize myself with the MAC so I could better understand users when they call for help. It isn't going to happen overnight but I don't give up that easily.

Recommend spending some time in the Switchers section with eric's switchers faq. He's spent a lot of time on it and think you would find it extremely useful. And of course, like anything new, it will take spending some time with the OS.

Don't really consider myself a switcher at this point in time. I do, however, have this almost 4 month old MBP that my wife claims is "glued to my hip".

Did not buy mine as a replacement for my XP desktop, but as a mobile supplement to it. Never having owned a notebook, I think I would have been sorely disappointed if I had gotten rid of my desktop and purchased any notebook as my only computer. I will say that out of all the computers I have bought and built, the MBP is turning out to be the 2nd best computer purchase I have made to date (my current desktop being the best). My computer time for the last 3 months has been OS X - 95% and XP - 5%.

Will say, the next time I have to go in and fix my wife's machine (for issues that I never have on mine), I'm about ready to go get her a 20" iMac and call it a day.

For any of you that have been trying to switch to Linux, and like it, but at some point it is just too much to have to learn, think you will love OS X.
 
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How are you using the internet without launching an application (Safari iow)?

I am using the icon in the tray at the bottom. I finally realized that it is "docked". Thank you for letting me know what the difference is and how to do it. I was aware of the "bouncing" icons and what they meant but confused as to why nothing outside the Dock seemed to work with a double click.

Now to sort out the commands and memorize file/package locations. This is an adventure.
 
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Recommend spending some time in the Switchers section with eric's switchers faq. He's spent a lot of time on it and think you would find it extremely useful. And of course, like anything new, it will take spending some time with the OS.

I will take you up on that recommendation and have actually found a few useful links as I read. This is my first posting for help at a forum, as well, and have enjoyed figuring out how it works. Now, I'll go over to the 'Switchers' forum so as not to hijack this thread with my inexperience. Thanks!
 
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No no no....Windows = English, OSX = Spanish.

No one ever speaks pig latin, almost every one speaks English, broken or not. A lot of people speak spanish, and a lot of English users get angry when Spanish speakers refuse to learn English.

Ok, better analogy. The point that I was getting at is that if you have even a basic understanding of Windows (or any GUI for that matter), using OS X should be easy since the basic stuff is the same or pretty close, even if the close, minimize and maximize buttons are on the wrong side of the window. ;)
 
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With all due respect to silverforth for her and her husbands sacrifice, which I do apprecitate, I am always amazed when I hear someone (about macs)saying this sucks, that sucks, that sucks, this sucks...etc....

Here is the bottom line from a long time windows user / admin / computer + network builder:

1) Low end apples don't cut it for gaming, while the high end models will do it.
2) For engineering people like myself not being able to run AutoCAD on OSX stinks, but you can do bootcamp if you have to have everything in one computer.

Aside from that, I am going to have to call people out on this "I can't do (fill in the blank) on my mac".

What you really mean is you just gave up without really trying. I hate the quitter attitude.

I swear there is more (expletive delteted) free or very affordable software for macs than there is for windows. Every little niche / need I have has been filled by one program or another. I do tons of photo, video, and audio editing, as well as filesharing, capture, conversion, and a ton of other things.

Mac people are very creative, and many are willing / capable of writing programs to fill needs, and they do just that. Most are free, and I have been known to drop $15 or $20 here or there for a really useful one that I find. It took a bit of googling to find a few of them (read:effort). But I am SO SICK AND TIRED of the windows viruses, security scares, spware, lockups, and other hassles, and am so glad to come every night to a mac, after working on a windows / dell junkbox all day.

When I saw that MS office for mac was $400 or whatever, I said SCREW THAT! I installed openoffice (free), and it works fine. It does everythig office did. Problem solved. There is so much software for media editing on a mac it is enough to blow your mind!

But her post makes one thing clear. Some people are not capable or willing to forget the old and learn new things, even though they might be better. Some people throw up their hands and give up too soon.

During the first week on the mac, I was a bit steamed a few times, but I dug in my heels and was determined to find solutions. And that is what I did, with patience, and persistance. Now, I am yet another who has broken the microsoft stranglehold.

Please don't be offended if I mention your favorite brand here, but look. People for the most part don't smoke a marlboro because it is the best cigarette, the started smoking them because everyone else was doing it. The same goes for drinking budwieser. While it is ok to drink, and sometimes I am in the mood for it, anyone from Germany would laugh you out of the room if you tried to tell them that was a real beer. People drink it because everyone else does.

People are in general, sheep. They are herd animals. Mac users are typically the sheep who keeps leaving the herd, the one the sheep dog has to chase down all the time. Microsoft has been crammed down everyone's throat for so many years people just accept that this is how things must be done.

I laugh at that notion now. No regrets.

In fairness, in my opinion, for a person with minimal computer aptitude, who has only known windows, who gets frustrated easily, the mac os is really NOT "easy" to learn. It will probably be difficult for someone fitting that description, despite the usual reputation of being "easier". I think that where a great deal of confusion comes from. While it might be "easier" to learn as your one and only OS, it isn't really "easy" if you have to first un-learn windows, for the more technically-challenged among us at least.
 
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omg.

there should never be an option to switch!

lol, when your born you should be given a mac just like were taught english lol

and thats that.


work smarter not harder i say lol
 
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Not sorry at all.

One thing I refuse to do with my MBP is to run Windows on it. Why? Over the past two weeks I have been getting all the software that I used on my XP machines and now have the Mac versions installed on my MBP. The Hardest to get was Photoshop CS3 mainly because of the price, but I got it today.

I had also thought of getting Office for Mac but with what is already included in my Mac, I don't think I will need it.

Besided, if I was going to run Windows on this MBP, I may as well not have paid the $2000 for it! I could have saved the money and kept using my two XP Laptops.

With everything I have installed and running on my MBP, I have not noticed one bit of a slowdown in bootup speed or speed in using the computer.

I hope there are allot of people who feel the same way about their computers, keep it Mac, no need to look back!
 
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Yes! I was sorry i bought a Mac the first two days!!
I was having some problems and i was so comfused that i wanted my windows back.
But it just needs some time to get used to it. Now im not even thinking of buying a PC again, i just cant find a reason to go back.
Im already dreaming my MacPro ^.^
 
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yeah. I'm sorry. I'm sorry I switched...so late. Way back when, I had a bad experience with Macs (System 7-something). One of my college professors was what I called a "Mac snob" and required our computer science programs to be written for Mac (he was the only one in the entire Computer Science dept. with that requirement).

One night in the student lab, after spending about 3 hours working on my program with multiple versions on 2 floppies, I went to save the final one. The Mac rejected both disks when I went to save it (it was not possible to write to the local HD). It just kept spitting out the disks and saying I needed to insert volume whatever. THAT was the disk it wanted. So I gave up, went home, worked on it in a DOS version of LOGO and worried about converting it to the Mac's version later. Since then I swore I'd never use one of those stupid machines that can't even recognize the correct floppy disk. DOS didn't care what disk was in as long as it had enough room and was write-enabled.

But now Macs are UNIX systems with mass hardware support and in my book, you can never go wrong with UNIX. So, I don't consider Macs running OS X to be at all related to those horrible machines I swore I'd never willingly use. :)

BTW - the root cause of my floppy disk problem was that the OS saw a big difference between "eject floppy" (from the SPECIAL menu) and dragging the disk to the trash can to "unmount" it. Come on - how intuitive is that? Dragging a disk to the trash? That means it's waste and you want to throw it away (or format it even). Bah! Right-clicking and selecting "EJECT" is fine with me as I can safely do with OS X.

One additional thing - there is nothing I can't do on the Mac that is normal. Yes, I have to run Windows in a VM, but that is for exactly one thing - Outlook/Exchange (entourage sucks too much, I cant stand it). But that's not Apple's fault. It's Microsoft's fault for once again using proprietary email protocols rather than using STANDARDS! And it's my employer's fault for not enabling IMAP as they could do, but won't. Everything else I can do with native Mac OS X programs. I have a problem with systems that "require" one particular OS/program - especially web sites that require IE and IE only. That's a poorly designed site IMHO.
 
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I haven't bought my MBP.. yet; not untill October or November (or if they announce something new... again). But I can't give up my PC; I play high end games with my 8800 GTX, and until MAC's let me do this when I want to (upgrade that is) I will have the PC for this task. Another thing I have hardley had any problems with XP.
 
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While I am eagerly awaiting my MBP to come in, I have been reading a lot of good things about Mac OSX that is just adding to the excitement. I do intend to find as many application equivalents to what I use in Windows, but I am not sure about Visual Studio.

There is the MonoDevelop application, which I will definitely try out. Does anyone have experience in using MonoDevelop to develop .NET applications? Have you run into problems with it?
 
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Silverfroth, If your husband can use AIM, or AOL's IM you can use ichat and video chat with him...
 
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No no no....Windows = English, OSX = Spanish.

No one ever speaks pig latin, almost every one speaks English, broken or not. A lot of people speak spanish, and a lot of English users get angry when Spanish speakers refuse to learn English.

Village Idiot, Actually me being from an English speaking country and speaking for myself as well as for everyone I know the only time it bothers us that a spanish speaking person hasn't learned to speak English is when that person is in my English speaking culture trying to communicate something and all they can say is "No Speak English"
 
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i'm sorry that i upgraded this piece of crap dell with 1gb of ram....the guy at the store said "your paying alot just to upgrade this old comp...why not just invest that money in a new computer?" and i said "nah it's fine [because i am an ignorant pc user and i don't want to keep my options open]" and guess what? now i am buying a mac! i wish i spent that $200 tword a new macbook pro instead of upgrading this junk. ah well...my projects pay good, so 6 weeks into the decision i have $1500 tword the mbp! but i could already have the mbp...
 
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You know what? I am a bit sorry that I switched. I'm finding it so hard to get used to the mac. I bought a MacBook in March and stopped using my desktop (XP) when it arrived. My desktop now sits in the corner and I use (try) my macbook everyday when not at work.

Now I love the look of it and all that and I really want to get used to it, but after several months of using it daily I still have loads of things I just can't seem to do on my mac that I could on my Windows box. Now I know I *can* do these things on my mac, I just haven't found, and yes, I guess bothered, to look it up.

Certain things I just don't find logical, (not saying that windows etc is, it's just we're talking about the mac here) such as, if I connect to a folder share on a windows box, say, called 'public', it will then place a 'public' network icon on the desktop. Great. but, if it gets disconnected for whatever reason, then the 'Public' 'icon' goes away. Great. Right well i'll create an Alias then (so i can re-initiate the connection from the desktop). But that means that while connected, I have the Public icon the mac puts on my desktop, and the Alias that i've created. So i have two...

just things like that really. I guess it's something to get used too and I really should make more of an effort to work through the issues rather than having a little rant about it.

:)
 

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