Install disc for Japanese iBook G4

[ferrarr]

In Finder, the file size is 2.83GB, and your image shows 2.83GB as the discs capacity. Maybe they are different version number 10.4.4 vs 10.4.6? Other than that I'm not sure.

 

[krs]

I just stumbled across this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/VintageApple/comments/1026uco
Maybe it sheds some light why the burned DVD the OP tried doesn't work.

 

[kuro68k]

On the pages you linked to, which file did you download? The ISO or the torrent? I'm downloading the ISO file from this link;

Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger Retail DVD : Apple INC : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive to see what the file type is.


What toast images?

These ones: iBook G4 (Mid 2005) Install DVDs : Apple : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

I usually use the torrent because it saves archive.org some bandwidth. The content is the same as the direct downloads.

 

[kuro68k]

That's exactly how the DVD looks for me, although it's a Japanese OS so obviously everything is in Japanese.

I will try the image from Macintosh Garden. The comments say something about "if your machine needs 10.4.5 you may need a machine specific restore disc". I wonder if that's the issue I have.

 

[ferrarr]

I wonder if that's the issue I have.

Did you look at @everymac.com? To get the full specs of that iBook as it will tell you the original Mac OS X numbered specific version it shipped with

 

[kuro68k]

Did you look at @everymac.com? To get the full specs of that iBook as it will tell you the original Mac OS X numbered specific version it shipped with

Yes it was 10.4.2 (8D37), but I can't find any copies of that. I set up an eBay notification. I did try the 10.4.2 discs off archive.org, but no joy. I see there is a 4x CD set for 10.4.2 as well, might give that a go.

 

[krs]

Yes it was 10.4.2 (8D37), but I can't find any copies of that.

Most likely because there aren't any retail DVD's like that.
Macs were shipped with system specific DVD's, the grey ones.
Any 10.4 retail DVD will work as long as the issue is .2 or later, so a 10.4.6 for instance is fine.

What I found yesterday googling a bit, is that there is a lot of misinformation about these older macOS on line.
I would just spend the $20.- or so and buy an original 10.4 retail DVD - that way one knows for sure if the install problem is the downloaded software or the Mac.

 

[kuro68k]

I think I'm going to do that, there are some on eBay that look like they should work.

 

[ferrarr]

Another place to look is LEMSwap.

LEM Swap | Low End Mac

lots of oldies and goodies there.

 

[kuro68k]

Are these the right discs?

Original Mac Install Discs, iMac Tiger OS X 10.4.10 for early iMac (myref13) | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Original Mac Install Discs, iMac Tiger OS X 10.4.10 for early iMac (myref13) at the best online prices at eBay! Free delivery for many products.

www.ebay.co.uk

 

[pm-r]

Are these the right discs?

Not unless you can possibly read the fine print on the gray Mac OS install discs as to exactly which "early iMac" model they were meant for, if they even says so. Apple was not exactly meticulous in their labeling as I recall.

Original Mac Install Discs, iMac Tiger OS X 10.4.10 for early iMac

The full Mac OS 10.4.x "Retail" install discs (Black and Chrome with a big X on their face as I recall) would be a better bet and usually guaranteed to work on all supported models.

Also, I would be inclined to avoid this purchase because of their comment":

No returns accepted. See details- for more information about returns

The more generally usable and work better retail versions look like this, and they are not gray discs that are designed for specific models:



Or try their site:

ohhhhh im pooooping : Apple INC : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Mac OS X Tiger Retail DVD (iso image) Version 10.4For Combo update to version 10.4.8 after installing: https://support.apple.com/kb/dl170?locale=en_USOther...

archive.org

- Patrick
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[kuro68k]

Thanks, I will try that one.

 

[krs]

Thanks, I will try that one.

If this is just a Combo update, one needs to have an earlier version of Tiger already installed on the Mac to use it.
The black retail Tiger install DVD is still the most likely to work.

 

[kuro68k]

Yes, it doesn't work. I can't find a reasonably priced retail copy in the UK, but I'll keep looking.

 

[pm-r]

Yes, it doesn't work. I can't find a reasonably priced retail copy in the UK, but I'll keep looking.

Do you happen to have a fairly convenient local Apple Service Support store that possibly has a compatible copy of the OS they could install on your Mac for you for maybe a small charge???

It might be worthwhile asking if they could do such a thing for you. It sure wouldn't hurt to ask.




- Patrick
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[kuro68k]

That's a good idea. I will email all the Apple repair places around here. I called the nearest Apple Store but they said it wasn't something they could do in-store, although they were willing to look at sending it away.

 

[ferrarr]

Did you ask if they could burn a DVD for you? If you bring in the DVD maybe?

 

[kuro68k]

Did you ask if they could burn a DVD for you? If you bring in the DVD maybe?

I asked the repair places that (email, closed now), but not the Apple Store. I thought it might be best not to ask if they could pirate Apple software, even if it is obsolete!

 

[MacInWin]

It's not pirating. You have a machine, it came with the OS and they should be willing to reinstall it. It may require sending to an Apple depot repair, but they may be able to install it in-store for you.

 

[krs]

Kuro,
You may want to read this:

How can I make an install disk for tiger … - Apple Community

discussions.apple.com

For one, someone claims one cannot make a copy of the Tiger install DVD and also that there are no universal (ppc & Intel) full install disks.
I don't know what is actually true.