Onyx Ready For Download

[dtravis7]

I followed your advice. Shutdown my iMac and restarted from the USB flash drive I created when I installed OS X 10.9 and ran DU Repair Disk (Macintosh HD)
This time I got a message saying that the Macintosh HD had been repaired so I exited out of DU and restarted my iMac.

Opened Onyx again to check and it went through the Smart Status - OK and then checking the structure of the drive gave the "Disk needs to be repaired" message once again. Any ideas please??

Are you 100% sure you are running the new Onyx for Mavericks? Just ran into a thread where they were running the version before and getting your message!! Check and be sure you downloaded the right one. I would have Never thought of that one.

Right here on Mac Forums no less! http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/os...onyx-says-my-startup-disk-needs-repaired.html

 

[dtravis7]

This is the version that should be installed:

Version 2.8.0

 

[MacGandalf]

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Are you 100% sure you are running the new Onyx for Mavericks? Just ran into a thread where they were running the version before and getting your message!! Check and be sure you downloaded the right one. I would have Never thought of that one.

Right here on Mac Forums no less! http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/os...onyx-says-my-startup-disk-needs-repaired.html

Downloaded before I posted on here: v2.8.0 for Mavericks

 

[dtravis7]

Downloaded before I posted on here: v2.8.0 for Mavericks

Hang in there then. It's so new not a lot of posts about it. Just that thread here and he was running the older version. You can try the Command+R and open a terminal and run FSCK from the Terminal and see what that says. Have it do a full check. I forget the syntax but do a help and it will give you the commands.

 

[pigoo3]

Opened Onyx again to check and it went through the Smart Status - OK and then checking the structure of the drive gave the "Disk needs to be repaired" message once again. Any ideas please??

Did you read my previous post? Are we talking disk repair issues...or permissions repair issues?

- Nick

 

[dtravis7]

Opened Onyx again to check and it went through the Smart Status - OK and then checking the structure of the drive gave the "Disk needs to be repaired" message once again. Any ideas please??

Not to be a pain but that is disk structure. That is not a permissions test. Only time I failed that test is when there were issues on the drive.

 

[MacGandalf]

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Did you read my previous post? Are we talking disk repair issues...or permissions repair issues?

- Nick

Sorry Nick, yes I did. The error message reports that the Disk is in need of repair, not Permissions.

I verified Permissions and it reported them as OK.
I verified the Disk and it said it was OK.
I repaired the Disk and it said Repair Successful
I then verified the Disk and it said the disk appeared to be running correctly.

After restarting the computer started Onyx 2.8.0 again - it went through Smart Status - OK
Verifying structure of Disk - "Your disk needs repairing etc"

 

[dtravis7]

This also might be a bug in the just released Onyx for Mavericks. Am searching but it's only been out maybe 24 hours and not a lot of input as yet. If there is an issue it will turn up as many use Onyx. I had none here but maybe different with different hardware.

 

[MacGandalf]

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This also might be a bug in the just released Onyx for Mavericks. Am searching but it's only been out maybe 24 hours and not a lot of input as yet. If there is an issue it will turn up as many use Onyx. I had none here but maybe different with different hardware.

I see. Will keep checking this thread then to see if anyone else has this issue with 2.8.0. Hoping that it is a bug and nothing more serious.

Re: fsck terminal command - 'fraid I'm not experienced with using Terminal or the required syntax to execute that command safely.

 

[mesut]

Here is my topic about that: http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/os...12-live-file-system-repair-not-supported.html

I don't think it's an Onyx bug, because if you validate the disk using Disk Utility under recovery, it gives you an error.
But you don't get the error if you are using the recovery on a USB disk or, in the OS. This tells me that it might be a Mavericks bug though.

 

[pigoo3]

Sorry Nick, yes I did. The error message reports that the Disk is in need of repair, not Permissions.

Ok...thanks. That clears things up (at least for me).

Have you considered that this message is not being eliminated for one VERY obvious reason. Maybe your hard drive is starting to show early signs of failure. And at some unknown time in the future (1 hour, 1 week, 1 month, 1 year, etc.) the hard drive could completely fail??

If the hard drive is showing early signs of failure...running Disk Utility (or any other utility) a million times isn't going to fix it.

If your car has a bad waterpump...you can take it to 10 different mechanics...and all 10 may say yes...you have a bad waterpump. The only way to fix it...is to replace the waterpump!

Two possible solutions:

1. Keep making regular backups (as hopefully you are already doing). Then if this hard drive crashes...you lose nothing.
2. Replace the hard drive.

HTH,

- Nick

 

[MacGandalf]

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Have been looking at some other Mac posts re: 2.8.0 Onyx elsewhere - Others are getting the same messages and other messages as well - so fingers crossed it IS a bug whether Mavericks or Onyx.

 

[pigoo3]

Have been looking at some other Mac posts re: 2.8.0 Onyx elsewhere - Others are getting the same messages and other messages as well - so fingers crossed it IS a bug whether Mavericks or Onyx.

I don't know how long you have owned your Mac...but I'm assuming that you had OS 10.8 (Mountain Lion) installed before installing OS 10.9 (Mavericks).

What I don't know is...did you run Onyx on your computer before Mavericks...using the Onyx version for Mountain Lion (OS 10.8)?

Because if you did...and Onyx for OS 10.8 did not report this hard drive problem...then maybe there is a glitch in the Onyx for Mavericks version (and it may be corrected with an Onyx update).

If you never ran Onyx before...then you have no means of comparision to know if Onyx for Mavericks is the problem...or your HD really does have a problem (an Onyx is fine).

Or...maybe this HD problem is a new thing (began recently).

- Nick

 

[dtravis7]

Onyx uses Disk Utility command line to check the drive. If DU is saying nothing is wrong, then would it not be a bug? I have found many reports of that error on older versions of Onyx. I confirmed Onyx IS using DU to do the test. When the OP runs DU no error is found. Is that not a bit strange? Same utility?

 

[mesut]

Onyx uses Disk Utility command line to check the drive. If DU is saying nothing is wrong, then would it not be a bug? I have found many reports of that error on older versions of Onyx. I confirmed Onyx IS using DU to do the test. When the OP runs DU no error is found. Is that not a bit strange? Same utility?

I have a similar problem(http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/os...12-live-file-system-repair-not-supported.html) and I can't find any error when I run DU in the OS. But when I go to recovery and then run DU, it gives error. (When I choose the whole disk, it gives error. But if I choose the partition - Macintosh HD - , it doesn't give any errors.

 

[MacGandalf]

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I don't know how long you have owned your Mac...but I'm assuming that you had OS 10.8 (Mountain Lion) installed before installing OS 10.9 (Mavericks).

What I don't know is...did you run Onyx on your computer before Mavericks...using the Onyx version for Mountain Lion (OS 10.8)?

Because if you did...and Onyx for OS 10.8 did not report this hard drive problem...then maybe there is a glitch in the Onyx for Mavericks version (and it may be corrected with an Onyx update).

If you never ran Onyx before...then you have no means of comparision to know if Onyx for Mavericks is the problem...or your HD really does have a problem (an Onyx is fine).

Or...maybe this HD problem is a new thing (began recently).

- Nick

Have had Onyx on board since Snow Leopard, Lion and Mountain Lion. Never had any error messages with any version until 2.8.0 Nick.

 

[pigoo3]

Have had Onyx on board since Snow Leopard, Lion and Mountain Lion. Never had any error messages with any version until 2.8.0 Nick.

This would certainly seem to indicate a glitch of some sort in Onyx. Or...a very coincidental (with the Mavericks upgrade) hardware problem with the HD.

Maybe you just have to live with this issue until an Onyx update is released. Of course just to be safe. Keep those backups up to date...just in case the problem truly is a hardware (HD) problem.

- Nick

 

[MacGandalf]

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This would certainly seem to indicate a glitch of some sort in Onyx. Or...a very coincidental (with the Mavericks upgrade) hardware problem with the HD.

Maybe you just have to live with this issue until an Onyx update is released. Of course just to be safe. Keep those backups up to date...just in case the problem truly is a hardware (HD) problem.

- Nick

Yes. I always backup and Clone on a regular basis, Nick. For the time being I have uninstalled 2.8.0 and wait to see if any update is forthcoming. I have sent an email to the Developer outling the problem I have with 2.8.0, hopefully, he will respond.

Thanking all who responded.

 

[canecaster]

Similar issue here. Downloaded the Mavericks version of OnyX and it reports that my disk needs repair. When I boot into the recovery disk and verify my boot partition, Disk Utility tells me the disk is OK.

One other oddity, though, is when I run Disk Utility *from* the boot volume and attempt to verify the volume. The last line that gets printed is "Checking volume information". I don't see the green message that the volume appears to be ok, which I do see when I run from the recovery partition. The log, however, shows this:

2013-11-02 12:23:04 -0400: Disk Utility started.

2013-11-02 12:23:14 -0400: Verifying volume “Terminus SSD”
2013-11-02 12:23:14 -0400: Starting verification tool:
2013-11-02 12:24:06 -0400: Checking file system
2013-11-02 12:24:06 -0400: Performing live verification.
2013-11-02 12:24:06 -0400: Performing live verification.
2013-11-02 12:24:06 -0400: Checking Journaled HFS Plus volume.
2013-11-02 12:24:06 -0400: Checking extents overflow file.
2013-11-02 12:24:07 -0400: Checking multi-linked files.
2013-11-02 12:24:07 -0400: Checking catalog hierarchy.
2013-11-02 12:24:07 -0400: Checking extended attributes file.
2013-11-02 12:24:07 -0400: Checking volume information.
2013-11-02 12:24:07 -0400: Repair tool completed:
2013-11-02 12:24:07 -0400:

So I'm wondering why I don't get the green confirmation when running from the startup disk. I don't think it worked that way under Mountain Lion

 

[dtravis7]

Canecaster, it's a bug in Disk Utility. I ran it on the boot volume 2x. The first time it did what you said above then the 2nd time showed all the the info and completed. My drive is a brand new 1TB WD Black and there are NO ERRORS on that drive. It's in perfect shape.

It only does it on the BOOT partition. I have a 2nd partition with Snow Leopard and a Windows 7 partition and it completes on both of those. If I go back to any other version of OSX all is fine. So whatever you do do not worry. I am reporting it as a bug to Apple.

At least unlike Perian and Flip4Mac being broken and no way around it, this I am sure will be addressed.