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<blockquote data-quote="Graphite" data-source="post: 37735" data-attributes="member: 60"><p>Alright, this seems to be getting kinda far in heat. Going to extremes and what not.</p><p></p><p>First of all, Imagine two buckets filled with water. OSX and XP, both have a few holes in them. XP has a few more and so the water slowly drains out a little faster. People even go to XP and punch their own holes into it, a few times they are patched but more holes spring leaks. Ignoring OSX. Some how people notice OSX has all the water, and then look and see its lower holes are pushing water out a lot faster than the XP bottom holes. They jump to conclusions! They had the mind set that OSX was a solid bucket and when they see it has a few holes in it, it shatters their mind set. They forget that all along OSX had holes, and XP had more. They ignore that if you believe any OS is perfect your wrong.</p><p></p><p>pointless story? or do you question its validity.</p><p></p><p><strong>First</strong> of all this is published from... </p><p>This is a Security firm! You know they are not a gov, they are a security firm. </p><p></p><p><strong>Second</strong> it is a statistic, I can make any statistic point any direction. Think about it, what are their interests in? Keeping people safe? No making money. If people think OSX has just as much holes they will never leave XP. Windows is where the security $'s are at!</p><p></p><p><strong>Third</strong> This includes Applications. What good is a unholy application if the OS is pumped with holes. Then again, who really cares at all about the security of 90% of your applications? <em>Example: who cares if Adobe Photoshop has a giant hole in it, some how someone is going to waste their time and attack a unsaved document, while your using it?</em> We want to see the OS! If the OS stops them before they get to the App who cares?</p><p></p><p><strong>Fourth</strong> The first line.. what exactly does that mean? Reputation, haha they are attacking a reputation not the solid facts. Relatively secure, again meaningless dribble. They are attacking OSX, does this include the OSX Server? Do they have a solid firewall on their server? <u> this entire paragraph is pretty meaningless</u></p><p></p><p><strong>Fifth</strong> ok, show me these statistics. Show me the data, the distribution, Standard Deviation, X-Sqr!... give me something other than a "pie chart", im not going to believe a pie chart let alone one they have not shown me!</p><p></p><p><strong>Sixth</strong> This article is looking like an advertisement to me...</p><p></p><p><strong>Seventh</strong> Again, show me the #'s! I can make a 40% look like a 4% compared to anything I choose. How much can we trust statistics? Show me them! (also I huge validity issue, is they are looking at %'s, and %'s comparable with 36 and 46, HUGE difference.</p><p></p><p><strong>Eighth</strong> Nothing like discrediting your ENTIRE argument.</p><p></p><p>So I question.. What are you all arguing about?</p><p></p><p>Keep it peaceful</p><p></p><p>-Graphite.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Graphite, post: 37735, member: 60"] Alright, this seems to be getting kinda far in heat. Going to extremes and what not. First of all, Imagine two buckets filled with water. OSX and XP, both have a few holes in them. XP has a few more and so the water slowly drains out a little faster. People even go to XP and punch their own holes into it, a few times they are patched but more holes spring leaks. Ignoring OSX. Some how people notice OSX has all the water, and then look and see its lower holes are pushing water out a lot faster than the XP bottom holes. They jump to conclusions! They had the mind set that OSX was a solid bucket and when they see it has a few holes in it, it shatters their mind set. They forget that all along OSX had holes, and XP had more. They ignore that if you believe any OS is perfect your wrong. pointless story? or do you question its validity. [b]First[/b] of all this is published from... This is a Security firm! You know they are not a gov, they are a security firm. [b]Second[/b] it is a statistic, I can make any statistic point any direction. Think about it, what are their interests in? Keeping people safe? No making money. If people think OSX has just as much holes they will never leave XP. Windows is where the security $'s are at! [b]Third[/b] This includes Applications. What good is a unholy application if the OS is pumped with holes. Then again, who really cares at all about the security of 90% of your applications? [i]Example: who cares if Adobe Photoshop has a giant hole in it, some how someone is going to waste their time and attack a unsaved document, while your using it?[/i] We want to see the OS! If the OS stops them before they get to the App who cares? [b]Fourth[/b] The first line.. what exactly does that mean? Reputation, haha they are attacking a reputation not the solid facts. Relatively secure, again meaningless dribble. They are attacking OSX, does this include the OSX Server? Do they have a solid firewall on their server? [u] this entire paragraph is pretty meaningless[/u] [b]Fifth[/b] ok, show me these statistics. Show me the data, the distribution, Standard Deviation, X-Sqr!... give me something other than a "pie chart", im not going to believe a pie chart let alone one they have not shown me! [b]Sixth[/b] This article is looking like an advertisement to me... [b]Seventh[/b] Again, show me the #'s! I can make a 40% look like a 4% compared to anything I choose. How much can we trust statistics? Show me them! (also I huge validity issue, is they are looking at %'s, and %'s comparable with 36 and 46, HUGE difference. [b]Eighth[/b] Nothing like discrediting your ENTIRE argument. So I question.. What are you all arguing about? Keep it peaceful -Graphite. [/QUOTE]
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