Standby issues on new iPhone 16 pro

[M915 Driver]

I gave up like others and now use an app called Nite Time, actually I've had it for years.
It does bug me that the native option doesn't work as expected but Nite Time still does. In either portrait or landscape mode it does everything I want. I have never noticed any overheating issues.



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Hello
iPhone 14 with iOS 18.5
I downloaded the Nite Time app and really like it. Will the battery last all night? Should I put the phone on the mag safe charger, and what effect will this have on the battery health??

 

[pingber]

Hello
iPhone 14 with iOS 18.5
I downloaded the Nite Time app and really like it. Will the battery last all night? Should I put the phone on the mag safe charger, and what effect will this have on the battery health??

We’ve run the app all night on iPhone 16’s and only down 2%. We’ve got the phones on the charger too. As far as damage, this is what I found….


No, keeping your iPhone on a MagSafe charger overnight will not damage the battery, as long as you’re using an Apple-certified MagSafe charger and your iPhone is in good condition. Apple devices and chargers are designed to safely manage power and heat, with several safeguards in place:

• Battery management: iPhones running iOS 13 or later include optimized battery charging, which learns your habits and slows the charge rate past 80% until you typically wake up. This reduces battery aging.
• Heat management: MagSafe chargers are wireless, so they can generate more heat than wired charging. However, iPhones are designed to monitor temperature and reduce or pause charging if it gets too warm.
• Battery wear is inevitable, but charging overnight (especially wirelessly) doesn’t significantly accelerate it if done correctly.

 

[Rod]

Good try ferrarr, I thought of that too but back when this feature was introduced I tried it both ways to no avail. It still remains sporadic. I'm one of those poeple who sleep in a very darkened room (thanks to my wife) so I'm used to opening one eye to see if it's time to get up yet. If I had to reach out and tap the screen I wouldn't be able to easily go back to sleep.

 

[pingber]

Good try ferrarr, I thought of that too but back when this feature was introduced I tried it both ways to no avail. It still remains sporadic. I'm one of those poeple who sleep in a very darkened room (thanks to my wife) so I'm used to opening one eye to see if it's time to get up yet. If I had to reach out and tap the screen I wouldn't be able to easily go back to sleep.

Same here. So we now use the Nite Time app. It just peeves me that something we payed for doesn’t work. Btw, I thought it was only wife’s 16, but last night, my stand-by crapped out twice.

 

[Rod]

I wonder if Apple Knows about this? It seems like a lot of users have the same problem, at least on these forums. I realise we are only a small "sample" but...

Addit; for what it's worth I've reported it to Product Feedback
Others might like to do the same?

 

[pingber]

I believe it’s been a problem since quite a few iOS versions ago, I’ve found threads on Apple support going back to 202s.

 

[MacInWin]

I believe it’s been a problem since quite a few iOS versions ago, I’ve found threads on Apple support going back to 202s.

It was introduced in iOS 17, so not "quite a few" ago.

It is quirky. I filed bug reports with Apple about the ones I know of, which includes the fact that it goes dark after about 4 hours, sometimes drops out altogehter so that a tap goes to the lock screen instead of standby, and that it's finicky about starting into standby if there are recently running apps that interfere with it (I haven't been able to determine which those are, so I just kill the last 4-5 apps that have run and that seems to let standby start.

I've had two chats with Apple about it, to no avail. Because the problems are intermittent, they are the hardest to debug. If I (or anybody else) can determine how to faithfully make it happen by design, then maybe Apple will actually do something.

 

[pingber]

It was introduced in iOS 17, so not "quite a few" ago.

It is quirky. I filed bug reports with Apple about the ones I know of, which includes the fact that it goes dark after about 4 hours, sometimes drops out altogehter so that a tap goes to the lock screen instead of standby, and that it's finicky about starting into standby if there are recently running apps that interfere with it (I haven't been able to determine which those are, so I just kill the last 4-5 apps that have run and that seems to let standby start.

I've had two chats with Apple about it, to no avail. Because the problems are intermittent, they are the hardest to debug. If I (or anybody else) can determine how to faithfully make it happen by design, then maybe Apple will actually do something.

Specifically introduced on June 5, 2023, pretty much two full years ago. Plenty of bug reports have been filed since then I’m sure.
I tried unloading apps as well, couldn’t recreate it, only thing that could dependably recreate it was in a dark room, charging, allowing it to go to red. Apps 4 hrs…, back to black. I also saw that tapping didn’t always have a predictable result, sometimes going into a Lock Screen, never to return to standby again unless the phone was cycled. I also spent hours discussing this with apple.. waste of time. They tried to convince me that a genuine Apple case would solve the problem. I told them it has the same problem w/o the case.
Oh well. Using an app now that works reliably.
And btw, there have been 21 updates and bug fixes since ios 17. A few of those specifically address Stand By, obviously still didn’t work.

 

[Rod]

It should be kinda embarrassing for Apple that those of you who went for my recommendation of Nite Time are using an app that was last updated 10 years ago and optimised for iPhone 6 that works perfectly on iPhone 16 while Apple's purpose built 2023 app (Standby) doesn't.
Maybe Apple thought more people would use it during the daytime, personally I want a phone that I don't need to put on a charger during the day in order to display the Time, Calendar, weather or something else. My Watch does all that already. So, for me it's daytime performance is unimportant/unnecessary, it was the option of using it as a travel/bedside clock that appealed and sadly it fails at that.

Nick Fanger, the developer of Nite Time must be amazed to still be receiving a trickle of payments for the $1.99 upgrade for Nite Time. I paid for the upgrade nearly 5 years ago out of appreciation for an app that "simply works" because it doesn't do much other than add a flashlight function and several other optional colours.

 

[pingber]

$1.99? We paid $.99! Pretty funny though and you’re right, it should be embarrassing to Apple. I think right now they're more concerned about the release of iOS 19 (now renamed to iOS 26) than fixing this. Hopefully it won’t carry over to the new iOS.

Nite Time is complete reliable. Nothing bothers it. It’s all I need as for me stand by is needed at night.

 

[Rod]

$1.99? We paid $.99!

Ah, that's $1.99 Australian.