Safari browser emulation?

sjtaylor84 · Apr 22, 2007

Hi there,

I came across this on cnet's site:

"compatibility with Windows Live Mail is poor. However, Safari includes a browser emulation mode, in which you can have the browser render pages and emulate a range of other browsers out there, great for web developers and designers like myself. Only problem is to enable this menu, you have to type in a terminal command. Which, I've now forgotten."

Does anyone here know how to get this emulation mode to work? It would be great if I could get live mail and yahoo mail (as well as a few other sites) fully working in safari as I prefer it overall to firefox.

All the best
Simon

Aptmunich · Apr 22, 2007

From the ever useful macosxhints.com:

% defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1

Also, I really recommend checking out Webkit (The latest open source package of the engine that safari is based on) - it has some great web developer tools!

http://webkit.org

sjtaylor84 · Apr 22, 2007

Thanks, didn't know about either of those sites. I'm totally new to using terminal so how do I actually use that command? I closed safari, opened terminal, typed "% defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1" but it said "-bash: fg: %: no such job".

I managed to get the menu by using Safari Enhancer but when using Windows MSIE 6.0 User agent live mail just hangs on login and yahoo mail pops up a message a bout viewing messages in a different language. Any ideas how to get this working?
Simon

Aptmunich · Apr 23, 2007

Oh sorry, the % sign isn't supposed to be in there... just copy and paste from 'defaults' on...

Have you tried using Webkit? It has fixes and updates that aren't in safari yet...

sjtaylor84 · Apr 23, 2007

I couldn't get webkit to work as it said it wasn't compatible with plugins and I don't know how to disable my safari plugins temporarily so I can use it :-s

BIG D 04 · Apr 23, 2007

Yea I tried using IE Agent but it just kept "spinning" the Loading sign on the Windows Live Mail Page.

Can some one explain how I go about installing the latest Webkit? I know it's newbish but still, please.

Aptmunich · Apr 23, 2007

Just download it from the webkit page. (Select the latest nightly at the top of the list)

You can also use Nightshift to automatically keep your version of webkit up to date.

Just ignore the popup regarding 3rd party plugins unless you experience regular crashes...

Btw, even though the app is called 'Webkit', it will still say 'Safari' in the menu bar, which can be a bit confusing...

VanillaEps · Apr 23, 2007

sjtaylor84 said:
Hi there,

I came across this on cnet's site:

"compatibility with Windows Live Mail is poor. However, Safari includes a browser emulation mode, in which you can have the browser render pages and emulate a range of other browsers out there, great for web developers and designers like myself. Only problem is to enable this menu, you have to type in a terminal command. Which, I've now forgotten."

Does anyone here know how to get this emulation mode to work? It would be great if I could get live mail and yahoo mail (as well as a few other sites) fully working in safari as I prefer it overall to firefox.

All the best
Simon

What do you mean by 'fully working'? I use Yahoo! mail and Safari and it works just fine OR am I missing something???

sjtaylor84 · Apr 23, 2007

I can't get webkit to work as after the message about plugins it crashes. Is there a way around that?

By "fully working" I mean with the added features that you only get with firefox and IE.

Kilted1 · Apr 23, 2007

Have you tried the debug mode in Deeper it's under User agent you can select IE from there it works for me with some IE only sites

http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/system_disk_utilities/deeper.html

VanillaEps · Apr 23, 2007

sjtaylor84 said:
I can't get webkit to work as after the message about plugins it crashes. Is there a way around that?

By "fully working" I mean with the added features that you only get with firefox and IE.

Which added features?

sjtaylor84 · Apr 23, 2007

Deeper didn't help either :-(

I mean added features such as drag and drop, right click menus etc makes it far more productive than the old check box style interface.

Any other thoughts how to get this working?

Simon

sjtaylor84 · Jun 5, 2007

It would be handy if having an IE user agent isn't possible in Safari to have a Firefox one which is at least version 1.5. CamiTools for Camino has this so is there an equivalent for Safari somewhere?

Simon

Brown Study · Jun 5, 2007

Onyx, under the Parameters tab, then the Safari tab, has a control to turn on Safari's debug menu.