Preview Markup Function

[pm-r]

Sure, but Markup has very limited usefulness compared to Annotate for which there is no Toolbar button

I imagine one could always also try using the terminal.app. In this app, you can use various markups if one is a half-decent software developer/programmer.
I have always admired such smack users who have such talents.



- Patrick
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[hughvane]

Thanks for the numerous responses, and tossing a second hat into the ring, a reminder that I am using ...
•OS Sonoma/14.7.4.
•Occasionally, the markup toolbar shows as a matter of course (default), but I cannot determine how/why.
•Using the advice of dragging the Markup icon into the toolbar via Customise doesn't seem to work, tho that could be my fault or misunderstanding. What I'm presented with is shown in the attached image. Which is what?
•I use Markup mostly for images in Preview, adding some text (maybe), more often arrows, circles etc. Only rarely is Preview used for .pdf text files, which I would usually edit in TextEdit or Pages before saving as a .pdf.
•I know about Annotate and its numerous useful functions, but I'd just like the basic editing tools available in the Menu bar of an image (or other) I'm working on/fiddling with.

Cheers ... Hugh

 

[MacInWin]

Thanks for the numerous responses, and tossing a second hat into the ring, a reminder that I am using ...
•OS Sonoma/14.7.4.
•Occasionally, the markup toolbar shows as a matter of course (default), but I cannot determine how/why.
•Using the advice of dragging the Markup icon into the toolbar via Customise doesn't seem to work, tho that could be my fault or misunderstanding. What I'm presented with is shown in the attached image. Which is what?
•I use Markup mostly for images in Preview, adding some text (maybe), more often arrows, circles etc. Only rarely is Preview used for .pdf text files, which I would usually edit in TextEdit or Pages before saving as a .pdf.
•I know about Annotate and its numerous useful functions, but I'd just like the basic editing tools available in the Menu bar of an image (or other) I'm working on/fiddling with.

Cheers ... Hugh

According to that image, Markup is already on the toolbar. In the third line, far right, the icon is greyed out to show that it's already on the toolbar. It is clearly labelled "Markup." If it is somehow NOT showing, you can drag the default set of icons to the toolbar. That is the bottom line of icons where Markup is third from the right.

 

[pm-r]

According to that image, Markup is already on the toolbar.

I'm completely confused as to what the OP's problem is. Especially considering his screenshot shows that the markup toolbar is probably or should be already showing and ready for use.

If not, then all I can suggest as something else is wrong that maybe a shutdown of the mac and a reboot might help get things back into a working order as far as the Preview application is concerned.

I can't think of anything else to fix whatever the problem is.




- Patrick
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[MacInWin]

I'm completely confused as to what the OP's problem is. Especially considering his screenshot shows that the markup toolbar is probably or should be already showing and ready for use.

If not, then all I can suggest as something else is wrong that maybe a shutdown of the mac and a reboot might help get things back into a working order as far as the Preview application is concerned.

I can't think of anything else to fix whatever the problem is.




- Patrick
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One possibility is that if the file opened in Preview is small, the window may not be wide enough to show the entire toolbar. I just tried it and the bar is compressed with some icons not showing:


You can see on the menu bar a >> icon indicating that there are more things than can be shown. Clicking that shows two missing icons, one is Markup. That's about all I can think of that would make it sometimes be there and sometimes not.

 

[ferrarr]

You may want to choose the option to show Icon and Text in the Toolbar, instead of just the Icon?

 

[MacBiter]

•I use Markup mostly for images in Preview, adding some text (maybe), more often arrows, circles etc. Only rarely is Preview used for .pdf text files, which I would usually edit in TextEdit or Pages before saving as a .pdf.
•I know about Annotate and its numerous useful functions, but I'd just like the basic editing tools available in the Menu bar of an image (or other) I'm working on/fiddling with.

What you've described as Markup - adding text, arrows, circles etc - is actually Annotate, for which there is no toolbar option sadly, though once invoked it has its own toolbar for all those functions.

 

[IWT]

You may want to choose the option to show Icon and Text in the Toolbar, instead of just the Icon?

I agree, Bob and to do this and make other changes, Preview's Help Menu is very useful and comprehensive.

To get this "Help Menu", have Preview Open, and from the top Menu Bar , Click on Help.

From here, you can type in what you are trying to achieve OR "Show All Help Topics" which will open a list usually bottom right of screen, from which you can explore all the ways of doing things.



Ian

 

[ferrarr]

If you "right" click on the Toolbar in Preview, the option is right there. I thought everyone knew that.

 

[pm-r]

That's about all I can think of that would make it sometimes be there and sometimes not.

That's a good point and I hadn't thought about that possibility, but I guess I just don't completely understand what the original problem is or was.




- Patrick
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[ferrarr]

That's a good point and I hadn't thought about that possibility, but I guess I just don't completely understand what the original problem is or was.




- Patrick
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OP wants the Markup Toolbar to be viewable all the time.

 

[MacInWin]

OP wants the Markup Toolbar to be viewable all the time.

I think the OP wants the Annotate menu, not the Markup menu, visible all the time. It may have been called "markup" but the description in post #22 is the Annotation menu.

 

[ferrarr]

It sounded to me like the OP wants the Markup Toolbar always visible, and not just the Markup Icon? The Markup Toolbar has the options he uses.

 

[MacInWin]

It sounded to me like the OP wants the Markup Toolbar always visible, and not just the Markup Icon? The Markup Toolbar has the options he uses.

Bob, in post #22 the OP said:

•I use Markup mostly for images in Preview, adding some text (maybe), more often arrows, circles etc. Only rarely is Preview used for .pdf text files, which I would usually edit in TextEdit or Pages before saving as a .pdf.

Here is the Markup toolbar:

and here is the Annotate Menu:

So, if the OP is adding arrows, circles, etc., the Annotate Menu is the one to be used. That is what caused me to say that I think what the OP wants is a toolbar with Annotate tools instead of the dropdown menu options.

Maybe @hughvane can comment? He has not been back since post #22.

EDIT: Yes, there are overlaps between the two menus, but they also each have unique tools.

 

[pm-r]

t sounded to me like the OP wants the Markup Toolbar always visible, and not just the Markup Icon? The Markup Toolbar has the options he uses.

Whatever the exact options that the OP wants and to behave the way they want obviously is not available in Apple's Preview application, so maybe a different application from a third party developer may have all the features they want and if they find such an application they could just use that and have things just the way they want or at least closer to their wishes.

Apple says various applications such as photos and notes and possibly text edit can do markup but I could not find or discover anything close to what their Preview application can do.

Maybe some Google searching could find one with enough searching. Meanwhile we have an example that English is not always the perfect language for describing what ones wishes are. At least not in the language used in this case to describe one's wishes.

Personally, I thought some of the replies were a pretty good answer to the apparent problem at least as I understood it. But, apparently not.




- Patrick
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[hughvane]

Firstly thank you to ALL who've offered their thoughts and opinions.

A number of you are right in understanding what I seek, namely the Markup Toolbar always visible in a Preview (image) window.

Annotate provides individual tools, which I would like displayed permanently in bar form, but if I read and comprehend correctly, that function is not available and I will have to use Show Markup Toolbar each time.

Tally ** ... Hugh

 

[pm-r]

but if I read and comprehend correctly, that function is not available and I will have to use Show Markup Toolbar each time.

That seems to be the case Hugh, but I guess one could always memorize the provided keyboard shortcuts and use that method, or maybe even customize one's Voice Control and use them.

At least Apple provides some possible alternatives.



- Patrick
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