mail and spam

[macdave1]

Gmail gets thousand of spam emails. Apple mail gets none that I can see, so where are they?

 

[Raz0rEdge]

You want spam? What's you real question?

 

[macdave1]

Well sometimes you expect an email but don't get it. Sender says to check spam. So how to do that?
If you can't find Junk/spam folder.

Maybe I should have said Icloud mail!

 

[Raz0rEdge]

OK yes, that's a better question.

Within Mac Mail, if you click on the Mailboxes link on top you'll see the sidebar which has the Junk folder as seen below.



Go to Preferences and Junk Mail and ensure that you have enabling junk mail filtering which will allow you to move things around to the right bucket.

Also check iCloud in the cloud to see if you can find your email there.

 

[macdave1]

OK I have the junk folder, but it is empty. Does Apple filter or hide unsolicited emails? I never see anything in the junk folder! Nothing in icloud either.

 

[Raz0rEdge]

No, Apple won't hide anything from you. If you got it and you have the filtering set, junk mail will automatically go to the Junk folder.

If the folder is empty, then you haven't received anything that is junk. But if you aren't also receiving any email from a sender, ensure they are using the right email address.

You might also want to send an email from your GMail account to your iCloud account to ensure that things are flowing properly.

 

[pm-r]

You might also want to send an email from your GMail account to your iCloud account to ensure that things are flowing properly.

And maybe vice versa as well, just to check and be sure both are working well...


- Patrick
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[pm-r]

Gmail gets thousand of spam emails. Apple mail gets none that I can see, so where are they?

If your Gmail SPAM filters are not working properly and you want to prevent them from cluttering up your mailbox you can try getting them blocked if you can access the headers of each spam email.
In the header should be some indication of " spam abuse" or something similar with an email address, and just send them a message and include the headers of the spam email and ask them to desist or to get the spam email stopped.

Certainly no guarantee, especially if the email sender's address is spoofed, but I went on such a warpath several years ago and it really paid off and some even replied with a thank you that they didn't realize their server was being used for such illicit services.

You can even sign up with spamcop.net or similar services if you want to get serious and possibly, hopefully, get the SPAM stopped almost if not completely.


- Patrick
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[macdave1]

I'm happy that therer is no spam in the icloud account, I just can't belive there is none.

In post #6 ashwin said "No, Apple won't hide anything from you."
That may not be correct check out this link.

Troubleshooting Apple's Junk Mail Filter
Apple may in fact be filtering.

I'm trying to get away from all thing Google. So @icloud.com is main email address.

Thanks for all the replies.

Dave

 

[Raz0rEdge]

There is a difference from hiding an email and marking it as junk. All email servers will deliver an email send to your email address. Most also have some level of spam filtering so that you can deal with it as you see fit.

However, NONE of them are going to arbitrarily choose that something should not be shown to you at all. So either spam email shows up in your Inbox requiring you to specifically mark it as spam to be moved to the Junk folder and in the future. Vice versa, normal emails will get marked as spam incorrectly and end up in the Junk folder requiring you to unmark it as spam so that future emails show up in your Inbox.

 

[macdave1]

I think we have a circular conversation going Ashin. I just can't believe there is no spam being sent to my icloud account.

 

[Raz0rEdge]

If it's a brand new account and something you haven't used all over the place, then yes it's entirely possible to not have any. I never use my iCloud account and have no spam. I use my gmail account everywhere and get about 300 pieces of spam a day on it that is all sitting in the spam folder.

I also have an old Outlook account that I use in a couple of places that gets about 100 pieces of spam a day.

I also have another gmail account that I share with my wife for very specific uses and we use that email when we need to respond to things related to my daughter, for example and the places where we use it don't spam us so that account has received zero spam message ever.

 

[pm-r]

I think we have a circular conversation going Ashin. I just can't believe there is no spam being sent to my icloud account.

I can name at least a half-dozen users email accounts that get absolutely no SPAM or junk email.

Your chances of not getting any in your iCloud account could easily happen if you don't use or leave your iCloud account address all over the place.

I like Ashwin hardly ever use my iCloud account and it gets no spam, but I also use an account with my ISP that I used for all kinds of things that gets virtually none, yet another subsidized account with the same ISP gets all kinds of junk spam emails. Obviously the maintenance of that server account is pretty sloppy.

My wife uses a Gmail account with her Mac Mail.app, and I can't remember the last time she got any junk spam email.

Receiving spam or not will depend on whether your specific email address has been harvested or not for spam use, and then on any spam filters you may be using. There's nothing really magical about it. If the spammers have your address, you are going to get bombarded with Spam until it gets stopped with using spam filters.


- Patrick
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[MacInWin]

. Obviously the maintenance of that server account is pretty sloppy.

Maybe, maybe not. Spammers don't necessarily raid the ISP. Once one of them gets your email (from some URL that required you to provide an email to "register," for example) then that email gets shared everywhere by all of them.