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I've been a confirmed Windows user for decades - and consider myself somewhat of an expert in the Windows arena. About three months ago I switched to an iMac - first exposure to the World of Mac. It's been an absolute blast! I can't take anything for granted - all of a sudden I'm a newbie again - and I love it! Most things on a Mac work perfectly the first time. The few things that don't are an enjoyable challenge. I do wish I were able to connect with my son in college, via iChat (no joy so far), but I'm sure I'll get there.

What fun to be on the up-side of the learning curve once again!

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good news

and if you get a question, like the iChat one then come back here

don't be afraid of being a newbie, they are a nice helpful crowd here
 
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I meant that you can't use the mouse to highlight something and then right click to cut/copy and paste. Or is there a way to do that with the Mac mouse? I'm still learning the OS.

Sure you can.

Just right click try it you will see.

Now I use an MS Laser bluetooth mouse it right clicking is more obvious since it as a right button but your mighty mouse knows the difference.
 
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I Don't regret buying my first Mac Last July, I just bought too many of them hoping to never want to use a Windows machine again.

I had bought a MBP, a MB, an iMac and a Mac Pro. Last week I sold the MBP and the MB and replaced them with two HP laptops. I bought one of the laptops back in July before I had planned on selling the two Macs. For laptops, I just prefer using my HPs for many reasons and a few of them include having the home and end keys as well as the software versions of some programs just being better. I will be taking one of them on the road with me on my vacation in two weeks.

I still use my iMac everyday and my mac Pro, well I use it a short while everyday though I really didn't need it's power, I just wanted it anyways. I was thinking of buying a 24" iMac but decided to get the Mac Pro with a 23" ACD for the bedroom. One of the reasons I wanted the Mac Pro was to hold my ever growing iTunes music and video library. It's almost near 1TB.

I just happen to prefer to use both versions of computers. I don't think I wil ever be able to give up Windows computers 100%. I gotta say I love them as much as my Macs. I just wish I could browse my Windows laptops via finder in OS X. They show up but I get connection failed. I have to use an external USB drive to move files between each.

And yes, I know about Boot Camp, it was just inconvenient to have to reboot to load up Windows and I didn't care for parallels.
 
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just in case someone else is reading this and wondering where the home and end keys are on a mac laptop..

fn left arrow is home
fn right arrow works as end.
 
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just in case someone else is reading this and wondering where the home and end keys are on a mac laptop..

fn left arrow is home
fn right arrow works as end.

Yeah, I always knew that, just prefer to have actual keys such as the keyboard on my HP laptops and the aluminum keyboard on my Macs.
 
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Way... way too many specs to list.
It just seems to be a common question :)
 
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I use copy/cut/paste with the right click on my mighty mouse every day. Some times I have to go to edit to use it.
 
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MacPro is our only solution

After experiencing RAM and hard drive limitations trying to run Photoshop on a series of laptop PCs, I bought a MacPro 20 months ago. We're still loading up RAM beyond capacity but a PC simply couldn't keep up with our photo editing.

Yet, after having PC's since 1981, I've never spent so much time trying to figure out and fix problems on a home computer as I have with this Mac.

I'm continuing to have problems with disappearing drives. At one point, five of my six internal drives weren't visible on desktop or Finder. Apple geniuses couldn't help me, Apple tech support phone service couldn't help either. The only solution that worked was my own decision to copy the files (not drive) to another drive, reformat the problem drive and move the files (not drive) back. Then the drive was visible again. When I copied the whole drive (Carbon Copy, SuperDuper), it copied the invisible bit and made the target drive invisible too.

All-in-all, there's nothing else that I'm aware of that can handle Photoshop like a MacPro. so I'm not going back to PC's anytime soon.
 
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Yes there is (Unless you have the really old one button Apple mouse), the Mighty Mouse has a right click but is not enabled by default). Just enable secondary click on your right mouse button.

To do this, go to System Preferences/Keyboard and mouse/Click on the Mouse tab/Change right button to secondary click. You should now have the same right click function to which you are accustomed.

PS
You can also do this for laptop trackpads (Macbook and Macbook Pros only) by enabling a two finger click to register as a right click

Like, where have you been my whole life??
THANK YOU! I use the right click for work too!!
 
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Since March this year I have bought 3 brand new macs.

After my inital 4 core mac pro, I got a 24" imac for home and got my wife a macbook for college.

I cannot even imaging owning a windows box anymore. And at work I have 2 that are networked to my mac pro and I tell you, It s a freaking joke when I get on one of those machines.

I have used windows since My brand new 486-dx back in the day so I can say I know it fairly inside and out. And never again will I buy another windows computer.
 
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Just a follow up for some of those who might be interested:

I got the MB 2.1 refurb at $899. To be honest, I expected more, but its still good. My big problems are:

Build quality. I'm sure Hp or whatever would be worse, but I'm still not too happy. It feels so fidgety in my hands some times and I'm sort of worried about that.

Dead pixels. I've got 4-5. Its not a big problem for me since I'm not that big of a movie watcher and I rarely have all black screens. I realize that I could probably send it back.

Temperature. My MB hasn't been running too hot but recently I've seen temperatures of 60 degrees or 50ish while just web browsing. I realize it isn't a laptop but I still don't want it to burn my legs.

Battery. Twice its happened to me where I've used my MB in the morning at a full charge. Then, 6 hrs later when I came home (it was on sleep) it was compeltely dead. I plug it in and then open the screen - 2 hours of battery life left??? Yet at the bottom the green light is flashing. WHAT??

Did I just get a semi-lemon or what???
 
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Complain about the pixels and the battery.

the temps you're seeing are not uncommon.. my mbp runs about the same.. so does my t61p thinkpad.
 
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Hey Doug, often the same key patterns that work with Windows/DOS machines work with Macs. Just replace the control key with the Apple/Command/cloverleaf thingy key. Example command + x = cut, Cmmd + c = copy, Cmmnd + v = paste. Cmmnd + tab will do the same thing that Alt + tab will do on windows. There are tons more. Also, whenever you look at anything in a dropdown menu, the key patterns are right there just to the right of the menu item it's a shortcut for. I use the key commands all the time, rather than my mouse or trackpad. They let me do things a lot faster. Seems pretty efficient to me...

Also, it's not necessary to hold the command key while dragging. You can select a series of items with the shift key and a group of individual item not in a sequence with the command key. Then, without holding the command key, you can drag the whole lot to wherever you want it.

Well whereas I cannot imagine going back unless I had to for some reason (it is the best d@mn computer I've ever had and Leopard the best d@mn OS I've ever used; my Dell sits next to my Mac unused except when I need to access something over the network), I do concede that the Finder needs work. And yes I do have a problem with the missing Copy/Paste of files. No, it is not there. It is not available from the contextual menu, and it is greyed out from the Edit menu. I have never been able to select a file, go Cmd-C/X, go to a folder, and go Cmd-V. Doesn't work. Also, you cannot choose a range of files by selecting one file, then shift-clicking a file further down to select a range. Nor any other key combination it seems. Only dragging a marquee works, which may require 3 shift- or Cmd-drags to get the required files.
Also, there are inconsistencies in behaviour between the different views, like when creating a new folder; in 2 views, when you go Cmd-Shift-N for a new folder, the folder name is selected ready for renaming, in the 2 others, it isn't and when you start typing, you are selecting other files.
I like the drop-down crumb-trail in Vista, and the afterthought in OSX you can enable along the bottom of a window is not as good. And yes, I use the Cmd-click of the folder name all the time; it is very convenient, but you can't switch into adjacent folders as easily.
Little things like that, all of which I can live with. Most of my software needs are met; in fact, I find OpenOffice 3 is perfect for my Office needs, and Adium almost meets my IM needs; occasionally I would like to use Video, and it is a hindrance to some I know who have considered a Mac, to which iChat which doesn't support MSN is not sufficient. I've tried to sell them on Skype, which is good for video, but I would prefer proper Video integration in my IM negating the need for 2 programs and 2 logins on both ends. Here's hoping the Pidgin developers get their @ss in gear and implement it soon, it is the most sought-after feature by far. File transfers are also slow, and is being worked on I believe, but probably only for other networks.
Vista's Me-Too iLife wannabes are not bad, and I find Vista's integration of XMP metatags is better than the situation on Leopard; Microsoft Image Gallery embeds XMP tags, like keywords and comments, and when I imported the pictures into iPhoto, it recognised those tags and properly labelled everything. iPhoto doesn't embed tags however unless you export the pictures, and then only in the old IPTC format designed for photojournalists which is not entirely suited for the purpose. Ironically, I notice that Spotlight indexes the XMP tags, so I can easily find images tagged with it, but not IPTC-tagged files, nor iPhoto tags. So Leopard is XMP-aware, it can read them, but doesn't embed them or show them in the finder, like how Vista shows them in Windows Explorer. Again, the Finder's List view doesn't provide the view options that Explorer does, least of all showing metadata, which is ironic since Apple has always made good use of metadata where Microsoft hasn't.
Whether this situation with XMP tagging is deliberate, as it is a proposed Adobe standard (they deliberately don't support various competing media formats like XviD, Ogg, or Microsoft formats), or simply a sign of incomplete implementation, I don't know, but I'm eager to see if any of the above issues are addressed in Snow Leopard. The touted performance improvements alone are enough to make me consider upgrading, especially as the upgrade price is said to be small.
For now, I use the opensource Exiftool in conjunction with an Applescript I've devised to embed metadata like keywords, headings and comments in images in iPhoto.
 
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Cut and paste

I'm baffled - which programs are you talking about? For example, in Pages (or Word for Mac) I can select a para, right click and up comes the usual Windows-type menu with Cut, Copy and Paste. Highlight a chunk of a Web page and right click and you have Copy there. So where is Cut and Paste not working?

Unlike others in this thread, I've been using Windows more or less since Windows first existed and PCs before that with green screens and white text :) I've been using the Mac now for about five months and have not had a moment's regret - it is so far superior in user-friendliness as to be out of sight of Windows. And no more of those irritating, "Sorry we have to close now, would you like to inform Microsoft". For software that I haven't yet replaced, I use VMFusion and Windows XP - but I rarely go there. All I use in the Windows space is Photoshop and Homesite (html editor).
 
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i just bought an mac for the first time, after i have been using windows all my life.

i think they both have their good and bad points about them. i still use them both right next to each other. have the best of both worlds......
 
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This also falls in line with how I like to organize my files and folders. I hate database style programs for music and photo management, though some photo apps do a better job than others at keeping things tidy... But in OS X I found that the packaged programs such as iTunes and iPhoto love being redundant, in that they create a library which is populated by several different copies (different sizes) of the same file,(mainly talking iPhoto now) yet at the same time, you're limited to working with them, rather than being able to use the original file because why ? Because I'd be sorry that I edited the original file and would want to revert back to an untouched version in the future ? Well how about letting ME decide that ? Or give an option to do or not do that.. I like thinking for myself, thanks Steve Jobs..... But the point here is that I'd rather sort my files and folders via the file tree method, and I still plan on doing so for my own personal benefit.

Then don't use iTunes or iPhoto.

And when I set up my external HD's to use as photo and music servers, (via a 4 port hub connected to the back of my Airport Extreme) I'm going to make sure that all of my photos are in folders according to their scenario. (actually, they already are. ie; family, friends, vacations, animals, landscapes, urban, etc.. ) Even my Linux photo app (digiKam) sees these folders, and sorts them in a tree, and still maintains a database to check for missing and added folders or photos. It's about the most logical system you can imagine. And thanks to cut and paste, I can have folders or files anywhere, and it's as simple as highlighting, cutting and pasting. With OS X, it would be a lot more time consuming than this, and I've got the scars on my fingers to prove it !

Why not just use digiKam on the Mac? It is available from fink. How about Picasa? Xee?

Take a look at the site alternativesto.net

Also, if there is Linux software that you like, checkout DarwinPorts and Fink to find out if it has been ported to OS X.

There are certainly other little annoyances which get my pants with OS X, but if I wasn't able or willing to try, then I'd just as soon shut up and just pack it in. Mostly, it's the lack of control, as well as the lack of choices in software that gets me. I found a total of two other music players aside from iTunes (Cog and Play), which to me is astounding. And I really don't care for the "but all you need is packaged in OS X" argument, because sincerely, I hate iTunes, and iPhoto is a bit of a toy for my needs, and it's also cumbersome when dealing with organizing photos within a folder structure.

Songbird, Amarok, Banshee, ATunes and others are listed on alternativeto.net. I'm sure there are many, many others.

But enough of that. It's over and done with. We own the MBP, and I'll try and learn more, and make the best of it. I just hope I get on well enough with Aperture 2 and Garage Band, to make me want to invest more time in learning about the "Mac way" of doing things.

It's likely that it will be the last Apple PC I purchase though. As for Windows, it's more likely that I'd buy a Mac first ! But we'll see. Check back with me next year, this time !

doug

There are plenty of alternatives to iTunes and iPhoto. Just take some time to look for them.
 
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I guess. And I'm sure you're right, but, if it is such an easy thing to script in the first place, then why wouldn't Apple want it to be a functional part of the OS ? Just to say that it's "different" ? Using the command line is fine and dandy for certain things I suppose, but to have to open up a terminal, then type commands and directories JUST for such a mundane purpose as cutting and pasting, seems like a very long way around the bush.

I understand your point however, so if need be, I might undertake that venture. (the script part) Thanks,

doug

I'm a bit puzzled why the lack of cut/paste of files is such a big deal. File management might be 0.00000001% of my daily computer usage. Truthfully when I used Windows I just used drag and drop between folders, just like I do on the Mac.

Even if I was a "heavy" user of cut/paste, I'd gladly trade that for:

1. no viruses
2. a proper command line capability
3. getting rid of the registry
4. much more consistent user experience
5. many other benefits too numerous to mention
 
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Oh yes you can. The Mighty Mouse can be programed to right click.

Edit: After reading the entire thread it seems that the OP seems to think he can't copy and paste items in the finder. You can right click on items and choose to copy them from the contextual menu. Granted, you can't cut them. But as another poster pointed out, it is probably safer to copy to one location before deleting from another anyway. I used to do that in windows especially when I was dealing with more than one file at a time or an especially large file. I was always afraid that something might go wrong before an operation was completed. If that happened my file was still in the old location.

I am a switcher who was a PC user since 1983 or thereabouts. I have been a Mac user for four months. Initially the thing I had the hardest time adjusting to was the Finder. I liked my Explorer Plus from Windows. It took me awhile go get used to the Finder. It's slightly inconvenient to have to open multiple Finder Windows to manipulate files. In Explorer plus I could have two panels set as the default. And it took me awhile to adjust to the fact that folders don't sort at the top of the list. I found that maddening. There were a few other differences in file manipulation that took some getting used to.

But I actually prefer the Finder to Windows Explorer now, so much so that when moving files to and from my Mac and PC I always do it from within the Finder and pull files from the PC and push files to the PC rather than pushing and pulling them to and from the Mac from the PC side.


Terri

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To me this just seems backward. But I guess it's something I'll hafta get used to. Anyone have a more efficient way of doing what I described?

Right click on the Finder icon in the Dock and select "New Finder Window"
 

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