Laptop not running with battery

[HiHaHo]

Hey guys im a bit helpless.
I recently installed a new battery into my early 2011 macbook pro 15'. Worked perfectly fine..
Now suddenly the laptop won't turn on if not connected to the current and immediately turns off once disconnected. I also installed a new SSD which aswell runs perfectly.

Coconutbattery info:
Current charge: 7061mAH
Batterystatus: Good
Charging with: 0.0watts!
Battery State: Discharging (altough connected)

Any ideas what happened? I actually accuse myself a bit of having messed up sth while installing the SSD, but I checked everything twice already.. I also starded removing the disk drive in order to replace it with my old HDD. I didn't finish because I actually didn't have the torx..

Thank You!

 

[chscag]

Welcome to the Mac Forums.

Where did you buy the battery? Some third party batteries which can be purchased from ebay and other places work OK, but not all will. If your MacBook Pro works from AC, then the MagSafe Adapter Charger is probably good. As for Torx drivers, a set can be purchased from Home Depot or Lowes. Not expensive.

 

[pigoo3]

Reinstall the old battery...and reinstall the old hard drive...and see if the computer acts normally. The reason for doing this is two things:

1. You want to make sure that there isn't a problem with the new parts (battery or SSD).
2. You want to make sure that something didn't happen to the other parts of the computer during the install.

If everything works normally when you put the old parts back in...great! Now you know that there's probably a problem with the new battery, the new SSD, or both.

Now you can reinstall each of these parts individually...test...and see what happens to determine which or both are faulty.

Now if when the old parts are put back in the problem remains. Then this means something was damaged when the new battery and SSD were installed.

So you have to test to see what the answer is.

- Nick

 

[HiHaHo]

Before and after I installed the SSD the laptop ran well for a while.

Its a Newer Tech battery, model A1382 and bought from a professional seller.
The SSD is from Samsung, 840pro 512GB. Also from a well trusted seller.

I cannot reinstall the old battery, it was completely over (one of the lithium sell was badly inflated).
The torx drivers are on the way.

Ill see what happens if replace the SSD with the old HDD, but im pretty sure that it has nothing to do with the SSD.

How comes that coconut battery says everything is fine with the battery, altough it is not charging?

Thanks for your help!

 

[Dysfunction]

reset SMC

 

[HiHaHo]

Ok.
So i reinstalled the old HDD. Didn't work and because I already deleted it, I couldn't start the computer either. Changed back to SSD I also reset the SMC.

Nothing helped..
I noted that, asa I plug in the current, the Laptop starts on its own, without me pushing the start button.
Second it first always needed two attempts, now it won't start at all as long as I do not use the safety mode!

***?!

I also reset the PRAM because each time the laptop was turned off date and time is set back to 2001..

Anyways, things got worse with the laptop not starting in normal mode..

More advice?

 

[pigoo3]

Before and after I installed the SSD the laptop ran well for a while.

I cannot reinstall the old battery, it was completely over (one of the lithium sell was badly inflated).

- Was the SSD and battery replaced at the same time or different times?
- It could be possible that the "inflated" or swollen old battery could have damaged something.

- Nick

 

[pigoo3]

Ok.
So i reinstalled the old HDD. Didn't work and because I already deleted it,

By saying you "deleted it"...do you mean you erased it? You could always reinstall an OS on it so that it will operate/be able to boot from again.

But it is very possible that the new SSD is not the problem. And the main problem could be with the old swollen battery causing a problem.

Just so I'm 100% clear:

1. Are you saying that the computer will run on battery power...but will not work if plugged in?

2. If it will not run when plugged in...is it also not charging the battery? What color is the light on the charger when it is attached to the computer?

- Nick

 

[HiHaHo]

I first replaced the battery. -Everything worked
Next day I replaced the HDD. - Still everything worked.
Day after: Laptop doesn't start if not connected to the power.

-No, just the other way round: the MBP only works if connected to the power, it doesn't work with the battery.
The battery is still 90% charged, but won't charge any further for some reason.

Yes, meant I erased it. I know I can still use it (what I intend to do), but now in the safety mode I cannot install OS.

The chargers light is green.


The old battery surprisingly didn't damage anything. At least nothing you could see, plus as I stated before, the new battery and the laptop worked well at first.

Thank you for taking time for this!

 

[pigoo3]

I first replaced the battery. -Everything worked
Next day I replaced the HDD. - Still everything worked.
Day after: Laptop doesn't start if not connected to the power.

-No, just the other way round: the MBP only works if connected to the power, it doesn't work with the battery.
The battery is still 90% charged, but won't charge any further for some reason.

Thanks for all that info...it really helps. From what I'm reading...it seems to me that you might have gotten a defective battery. I would try returning the battery...and getting another one. Maybe one from OWC:

Batteries for Apple MacBook, MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, PowerBook, & iBook Laptops

- Nick

 

[pigoo3]

Another thing the possible problem could be is a bad/partially failed DC-In board. The DC-In (or Mag-Safe board) is the part that sits between the Mag-Safe charger & the rest of the computer.

It's basically a "power related part"...so a possible area to consider since the computer is having "power problems".

The part looks something like this:

http://www.powerbookmedic.com/Magsafe-DC-IN-Board-for-MacBook-Pro-15-Unibody-p-17273.html

- Nick

 

[HiHaHo]

Hey Nick, thank you for the quick response.

Ok ill send it back then. On the link you sent me they recommend the battery i bought. Would you rather try an OWC or just order a new Newtech as the one I had?

Do you think the problems I experience now (System start only possible in secure mode) is also because of the battery issue?


Ok, regarding the DC-In board: How could I check this? If this was the problem, what would be the solution?


Thank you
Phil

 

[pigoo3]

Ok ill send it back then. On the link you sent me they recommend the battery i bought. Would you rather try an OWC or just order a new Newtech as the one I had?

I guess I'm suggesting OWC because they are a trusted retailer. You said you got the current new battery from a "professional seller". I don't know who they are...so I don't know if I can trust them.

Do you think the problems I experience now (System start only possible in secure mode) is also because of the battery issue?

I guess when you menitoned above...that the computer worked ok when plugged in...I was assuming it was working fine (except not charging the battery). Are you saying that the computer will ONLY startup in "secure mode" (you may mean "Safe Mode")...and won't boot normally into "normal mode"?

- Nick

 

[HiHaHo]

ahh ok i thought OWC is another battery brand.
digitec.ch is a large supplier here in Switzerland, thats where I bought it.

Yes it only starts in the safe mode. But only since i changed back to HDD and back again to the SSD. It wasn't the case when I started the thread, back then it all booted normally.. Sorry if I wasn't clear. I said that at 9:20.

I work now in the safety mode..

 

[pigoo3]

ahh ok i thought OWC is another battery brand.
digitec.ch is a large supplier here in Switzerland, thats where I bought it.

Sorry…I didn't realize you were in Switzerland. If this supplier is well trusted in your area…then sure purchase from them again. It may just be a defective battery. If so…it happens.

- Nick

 

[johnodd4]

ouch..

Question did you try to boot the machine without the battery installed????

And if so did the machine boot correctly.

If not this would answer that most likely the board has a trace crack on the logic board this happens when the batteries swell and damaged the board on the macbook in question.

Bad new's Traces on main boards are small and there really is nothing you can do with a cracked trace.

 

[HiHaHo]

hey guys just wanted to report quickly.

I had the battery replaced again, now it all works perfectly!

Thank you!

 

[pigoo3]

Good deal. Thanks for the update.

- Nick