Iphone 4 for Sale!!

[schweb]

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[ZEEK]

dont worry, they will get you your money. There is no proof of any shipment being delivered.

 

[Returnofthemac]

Iphone

Zeek,
The thing that makes me so mad at paypal is that i can count oh 5 times now in the many years i have used paypal i pay for something personal or for work and then the person turns around and doesn't ship it or they fall off the map and since paypal can only maybe pull a quarter of the money out of their account before they close it i have only got fractions of the money back. Paypal in my mind is not safe to use cause they are out to make their money and not about helping customers not get screwed over like it was originally intended.

 

[schweb]

That's why you always use your credit card through PayPal if you use PayPal. Dispute it with your card company instead of PayPal if PayPal doesn't cooperate.

As for PayPal's resolution, I've never had an issue. I actually just had a dispute about 3 weeks ago with them because the guy never shipped anything. I put in the dispute, told them it had been 20 days since I paid but the guy hasn't shipped, and I had all the money back in about 24 hours.

 

[roeiboot]

wow... she was here to scam ? as others said, she was posting almost daily how excited she was about getting these products.. guess it proves i am too trust worthy.

 

[XJ-linux]

Heck, I accepted her "Friend" invitation... and I'm paranoid for a living. Oh well, no such thing as a bad scammer, or they would be a scammer to begin with. Same can be said of bad old pilots as well.

 

[macjuicy23]

Hey out of curiosity I did some googling and I think I found her. Her name is Vanna (Savannah) Denay Roach. She has a facebook page which is

Vanna Denay Roach | Facebook

This probably doesn't help much, but I guess you could spam them with messages.

She even looks like a Roach

 

[6string]

She even looks like a Roach

Sheesh.... LOL
I almost fell of my chair when I clicked on the FB link.
One of those instances when I had to quickly close the page before it cracked my screen ;P

 

[ZEEK]

Thats true, you should pay with your CC. I sell a lot on ebay and some people have scammed me a few times by filing chargebacks. Paypal sucks with chargebacks, here is one situation that happened to me.

I have a business online, someone ordered something from me and paid using paypal. AFTER 1 YEAR they filed a chargeback with their CC company and the stupid CC company initiated the chargeback as well. My step was to provide the traacking # but ofcourse which tracking # in the world works after one year? So i was out of $360 dollars and my product. But there was nothing else i could have done because the buyer was in UK and i could not get paid any other way. Paypal does suck but i have been using them for years. What can i do?

 

[XJ-linux]

So did anything good every come out of this theft of you money for the iPhone 4 the roach chick was selling?

 

[roeiboot]

So did anything good every come out of this theft of you money for the iPhone 4 the roach chick was selling?

been wondering about that myself..

 

[Returnofthemac]

Iphone

She had until today to send anything back to Paypal which i am doubting she will and they how ever long it takes to get the money back from paypal if any.

 

[MyBrokeniPhone]

It'd be good if PayPal held the funds in the seller's account until the buyer confirmed that they had received their goods. I'm sure it'd make it a lot easy to reimburse the buyer should something like this occur.

Though that could put the seller at risk... why can't this be easy?

 

[Returnofthemac]

Iphone

Really there is no safe way unless you do a face to face transaction and really play with the product and make sure it works. Like i posted before i have got had by paypal so many times and that is why i prefer usps COD so the product is in hand and then you pay the mailman the money and haven't had a bad experience yet with it.

 

[MyBrokeniPhone]

PayPal is just so easily exploited now.

Collect on Delivery is definitely the way to go, but such a service isn't readily available here in the UK unless you pay for a private courier. PayPal still seems to be the easiest option for me.

 

[iggibar]

If you filed the suit before they withdrew the money out of their paypal account, then paypal will *hold/lock* their money to their account until any problems clear, and also locks the user from removing their bank account. If they took the money out right away, however, there are no locks placed, and they can make a clean get-a-way... unfortunately.

 

[MyBrokeniPhone]

Doesn't PayPal realise that their system is flawed?!

 

[iggibar]

Flawed? Not sure about that. I don't really know what else they can do to prevent such a thing. Have any suggestions? Send them to paypal, but I doubt your the only one who has this problem. I remember when I sold both of my paintball guns on ebay to some guy in Indiana. He filed a claim the day following after he paid, stating that he had not received it. Within that time, I had used the money to pay other listings, fees, and other items, which equated to the exact amount I received from the items I sold. Paypal received the claim, withdrew the money for the transaction, which gave me a negative balance, which in turn let paypal fine for that negative balance. I was FURIOUS!! I could not get into contact with the buyer for the life of me! I thought I was going to get scammed or something because I also had my bank account linked with paypal, and there was no way in He** I was going to let them get both my money and my paintball guns. Luckily, I always use signiture confirmation and tracking from USPS. I never state this my listings though I gave it to paypal, and tadaaaaa...the buyer mysteriously claimed that he accidentally hit the wrong button on paypal! I've done claims on paypal, you don't accidentally go through numerous screens without knowing. They even reversed the fees.

Paypal can have it's scam artists hiding within, but unless you are doing a hand to hand transaction, I firmly believe it's the safest way to complete a transaction...at least for the general public.

 

[MyBrokeniPhone]

I admit that flawed was a bit excessive.

You're right though and the signature tracking without telling the buyer is an excellent idea! I'll definitely start using that precaution!

Thanks!

 

[iggibar]

No problem