ibook g4

[chscag]

Like "krs" mentioned in post #38, you should be holding down the "C" key as soon as you hear the chime (bong) in order to boot from the Panther disc. Holding down the option key will likewise work to show bootable options.

One thing.... if that Panther DVD or CD disc is not the proper one for your model G4 it's not going to work. Even if the hard drive is dead in that machine it should still be able to boot up from a proper install disc.

 

[davemathews39]

this was bought second hand and didnt come with disc, so i bought the full retail install disc, the black ones not gray, in ask on here and thats what i was told i needed to get so that what i got . and fyi, then mac os x 10.6 that apples sells for install disc if fact is not instalkl disc its only the upgrade, i bought it as well and just sent it back to apple

 

[chscag]

Okay. We just wanted to make sure you have the correct install disc for the G4. If the install disc is okay, then there is obviously something else that's preventing the G4 from booting. As for the Snow Leopard disc, it really doesn't matter what version it was since it is not compatible with the G4.

Also keep in mind that we are not sitting in front of your G4 to see what's going on and have to rely on your description of the problem. Be patient and we will try to work this out.

Member "krs" is giving you advice based on his experience.

 

[krs]

Can you post a picture of the install disk just to make sure there is nothing strange about it.

Then did you try starting the Mac with the option key held down? What happens?

If neither the option or the "c" keyy start up boots with the correct install disk, then either the disk or the disk drive is defective (or of course the Mac motherboard)

 

[davemathews39]

Not a problem, I wasnt trying to sound offensive, I apologize, I was just letting you know which disc i had , from what I understand the retail disc will boot and install on all mac ibooks, as far as the os x 10.6, it was suggested that i buy that one and I was clarifing that it was not an install disc, only an upgrade, I spoke with apple support and they told me , they no longer sell install retail disk, so no one would mistake it for and install disc, furthermore, I really appreciate all the help Im getting on here, I have been trying to fix this for my daughter for over a month now, so its not a critical issue that has to be fixed in a hurry, I would just like to get the old bird flying again and all help is greatly appreciated

 

[pm-r]

according to the web it came original with Mac OS X 10.3 Panther, so I bought online the Mac OS X 10.3 panther full retail install disc's which came with 3 install disc and 1 Xcode tool install disc, total of 4 disc, now the problem I'm having is when I put in disc 1 and press C at start up,

Is there anything printed on that #1 CD "Retail" Panther Install disk as to what exact OS X version it contains??? I also trust it is not a grey set of disks.

I ask as it seems the early 2004 iBook models need a minimum of:
Pre-Installed MacOS: X 10.3.3 (7G51)

iBook G4/1.0 14-Inch (Early 2004 - Op) Specs (Early 2004 14-Inch, M9418LL/A, PowerBook6,5, A1055, N/A): EveryMac.com

If the boot install disk is not v. 10.3.3 or even later, it will not boot that iBook!!!

EDIT:
For example, a Retail set of Mac OS X Panther Install Disck such as this Ebay offer would work with that iBook. It contains OS X 10.3.5.





- Patrick
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[davemathews39]

 

[davemathews39]

It doesn't say retail on the disc and it just says 10.3 panther , I ask they guy I bought them from if they were the retail disk and he told me they were, but I don't think they are 10.3.3, all it's says is 10.3, so that may be the issue

 

[krs]

Is there anything printed on that #1 CD "Retail" Panther Install disk as to what exact OS X version it contains??? I also trust it is not a grey set of disks.

I ask as it seems the early 2004 iBook models need a minimum of:
Pre-Installed MacOS: X 10.3.3 (7G51)

iBook G4/1.0 14-Inch (Early 2004 - Op) Specs (Early 2004 14-Inch, M9418LL/A, PowerBook6,5, A1055, N/A): EveryMac.com

If the boot install disk is not v. 10.3.3 or even later, it will not boot that iBook!!!



- Patrick
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Patrick -

It's a late 2004 iBook, not an early one - it came with 10.3.5 but I dont know if it will not boot into an earlier version of 10.3

 

[davemathews39]

That would be just my luck

 

[krs]

Not a problem, I wasnt trying to sound offensive, I apologize..........

Nothing offensive that I can see.

As far as macOS 10.6 is concerned - you can forget that totally.
The iBook will not run with the OS regadless how you get there.
The latest it will run on is macOS 10.5

Can't really read what it says on your Panther install disks - they are the correct type, but are the 10.3.5 or later?
If not and if you want tu pursue this, I would get a Tiger "black" install disk.
I really liked Tiger in its days.

 

[krs]

It doesn't say retail on the disc and it just says 10.3 panther , I ask they guy I bought them from if they were the retail disk and he told me they were, but I don't think they are 10.3.3, all it's says is 10.3, so that may be the issue

Hmmm....

Might be OK, I don't know.
Anyone have any insight into that?

I have to go out for a little while, but I will check back later.

 

[davemathews39]

iBook G4 (Early 2004) - Technical Specifications
iBook G4 (Early 2004) - Technical Specifications

Configurations 12-inch Combo Drive 14-inch Combo Drive 14-inch Combo Drive
Model M9426LL/A M9418LL/A M9419LL/A
Processor 1GHz PowerPC G4 1.2GHz PowerPC G4
Level 2 Cache 512K at 1GHz 512K at 1.2GHz
System bus 133MHz
Memory (DDR SDRAM) 256MB PC2100 (266MHz); 1.25GB maximum; 1 available expansion slot
Hard drive (3) 30GB ATA/100 4200 rpm 40GB ATA/100 4200 rpm 60GB ATA/100 4200 rpm
Optical drive Slot-loading Combo (DVD-ROM/CD-RW); SuperDrive available as a build-to-order option (14-inch models only)
Display 12.1-inch (diagonal) TFT XGA 14.1-inch (diagonal) TFT XGA
Graphics support ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 with 32MB of DDR SDRAM
FireWire One FireWire 400 port at up to 400 Mbps
USB Two USB 2.0 ports at up to 480 Mbps each
VGA, S-video and composite video output Video mirroring supports VGA video out to an external display or projector (requires included Apple VGA Video Adapter) and S-video and composite video out to a TV or VCR (requires optional Apple Video Adapter, sold separately).
Modem (4) Built-in 56K V.92 modem
Ethernet Built-in 10/100BASE-T Ethernet
Wireless support (5) AirPort Extreme ready; optional internal Bluetooth module available AirPort Extreme built-in; optional internal Bluetooth module available
System Software Mac OS X version 10.3 “Panther”
Software All models include Mac OS X, Classic environment, Mail, iChat AV, Safari, Sherlock, Address Book, QuickTime, iLife (includes iTunes, iPhoto, iMovie, iDVD(2), GarageBand), iSync, iCal, DVD Player, AppleWorks, Mac OS X Chess, Microsoft Internet Explorer, EarthLink (includes 30 days of free dial-up service with activation), Quicken 2004 for Mac, World Book 2004 Edition, Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 4, Deimos Rising, Sound Studio, Zinio Reader, Apple Hardware Test

 

[davemathews39]

look

 

[krs]

iBook G4 (Early 2004) - Technical Specifications
iBook G4 (Early 2004) - Technical Specifications

Configurations 12-inch Combo Drive 14-inch Combo Drive 14-inch Combo Drive
Model M9426LL/A M9418LL/A M9419LL/A
Processor 1GHz PowerPC G4 1.2GHz PowerPC G4
Level 2 Cache 512K at 1GHz 512K at 1.2GHz
System bus 133MHz
Memory (DDR SDRAM) 256MB PC2100 (266MHz); 1.25GB maximum; 1 available expansion slot
Hard drive (3) 30GB ATA/100 4200 rpm 40GB ATA/100 4200 rpm 60GB ATA/100 4200 rpm
Optical drive Slot-loading Combo (DVD-ROM/CD-RW); SuperDrive available as a build-to-order option (14-inch models only)
Display 12.1-inch (diagonal) TFT XGA 14.1-inch (diagonal) TFT XGA
Graphics support ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 with 32MB of DDR SDRAM
FireWire One FireWire 400 port at up to 400 Mbps
USB Two USB 2.0 ports at up to 480 Mbps each
VGA, S-video and composite video output Video mirroring supports VGA video out to an external display or projector (requires included Apple VGA Video Adapter) and S-video and composite video out to a TV or VCR (requires optional Apple Video Adapter, sold separately).
Modem (4) Built-in 56K V.92 modem
Ethernet Built-in 10/100BASE-T Ethernet
Wireless support (5) AirPort Extreme ready; optional internal Bluetooth module available AirPort Extreme built-in; optional internal Bluetooth module available
System Software Mac OS X version 10.3 “Panther”
Software All models include Mac OS X, Classic environment, Mail, iChat AV, Safari, Sherlock, Address Book, QuickTime, iLife (includes iTunes, iPhoto, iMovie, iDVD(2), GarageBand), iSync, iCal, DVD Player, AppleWorks, Mac OS X Chess, Microsoft Internet Explorer, EarthLink (includes 30 days of free dial-up service with activation), Quicken 2004 for Mac, World Book 2004 Edition, Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 4, Deimos Rising, Sound Studio, Zinio Reader, Apple Hardware Test

Model A1054, which is what you posted in post #30 is a late 2004 iBook.

Not that there is much difference to the early 2004 iBook

One difference is that the early one shipped with 10.3.3 and the late one shipped with 10.3.5

But that doesn't necessarily mean your 10.3 install disk won't work with the 2004 late iBook - I just don't know at this point.
If the Mac didn't like it I wouldn't expect to get the Apple logo.

 

[davemathews39]

That's alittle over my head , that's what I got when I googled all the info I have on the computer

- - - Updated - - -

So basically , I need the 10.3.5 up to a 10.5.8 which was on the book at last able to view

 

[pm-r]

Patrick -
It's a late 2004 iBook, not an early one - it came with 10.3.5 but I dont know if it will not boot into an earlier version of 10.3

Not normally, and especially if the "Late" model had some critical new feature that required the later 10.3.5 OS X version.

Personally, I go by the mimum requrements that is show for the particular model:
Apple iBook Specs (All iBook Technical Specs): EveryMac.com



- Patrick
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[davemathews39]

Yea, that's what I was trying to do, the post 46, is referring to a model A1055 14", mine has a stamp on the back reading A1054 and it's the 12"

 

[krs]

Yea, that's what I was trying to do, the post 46, is referring to a model A1055 14", mine has a stamp on the back reading A1054 and it's the 12"

So your model is definitely this:
iBook G4/1.2 12-Inch (Late 2004 - Op) Specs (Late 2004 12-Inch, M9623LL/A, PowerBook6,5, A1054, N/A): EveryMac.com

Couple of questions:
1. Did you try starting up holding down the option key? What do you get?
2. When you get the apple logo, how long did you wait before you gave up? Sometimes it takes very long for the Mac to start off a DVD. And did the DVD stop searching for a time before you gave up
3. Do you have another Mac with a DVD drive to check that that the DVD at least seems OK. Not to boot but just to see the DVD show up in the finder
4. Do you hasve an external USB DVD drive you can try?

 

[davemathews39]

1. option key shows install disk only, it has a little box in the bottom right corner with x in it, when booting from that logo comes up then goes to circle with slash through it.
2. when booting holding down c, logo appears then after a few seconds it shifts to the right a little then the tiny lines appear as in first pic above, after about 30 sec. disc stops spinning, i let set for almost an hour and thats all it done, disc never starting spinning again, nothing as if it just froze
3. do not have another mac, only windows pc
4. i have a 30 gb disk usb disk scan, which i have downloaded a ton of different supposed install disc off the internet and burned using transmac, unetbootin, magic iso, etc. Ive tried downloading everything from mac os x 10.4 thru mac os x 10.6 and none will boot