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Apple's Thermonuclear War - Cult of Mac

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Yes there were lawsuits during steves awesome growth of apple, but they were over more substantial claims.

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I'm not sure I agree with the first part of that - but if you can provide a list of Apple suits over the past 10 years - it would make for interesting reading.

I agree with the point that I think you've been making - which is that litigation feels like it's getting out of hand - but that's not just confined to industry. That's becoming cultural.

The tech industry is a tough one to discuss without focusing on specifics - and some of these cases - you really have to drill down to the details to see if it's really something of substance. I know from experience that there are definitely good reasons to rattle the legal saber - even if it appears to be over trivial tech features - because it can make the difference between inning and losing. I think what happens though, and this is the part that I don't like, is that the richer a company gets - the easier it gets to become a bully and then IP litigation can be used to stifle competition. That part I definitely don't like - and think there needs to be serious examination of the process currently in place. I know there are a few attorneys that frequent this board - so hopefully they'll come in and correct the parts I have wrong.

I get that it feels like everyone is suing everyone - it's becoming epidemic, but until a rewrite of IP law happens, I only see that becoming worse - and not remotely isolated to Apple. There is so much IP involved that's not readily apparent to the average observer - just look at Blackberry. That's a company on the way down the tubes - but they hold a ton of IP that they currently license (after a flurry of suit activity). The problem in the tech world is that ideas - once discovered and implemented - are often easily copied - and IP is the only protection for business.

Again, I fundamentally agree that it feels out of hand - but if I put myself in the shoes of each respective company - I'm not sure that there's an alternative right now - not in the climate that exists today.
 
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"C'mon, samsung, you can't build your tablet with a flat screen and a square/rectangle shape with rounded edges" Like that quote from Steve Adams.

I own a Galaxy S2 smartphone,and my sister an iphone.We have had (cough-cough),long discussions over it.My phone does not resemble an iphone,honest!! Poor Samsung.In my opinion,the Galaxy S2 is a "great piece of kit",and is "up there" with anything else on the market at the moment.A company that becomes "too paranoid" could fall on it's own sward,but not Apple.Do not like to see bullying,over any issue,and as a newbie to the Mac-World,will not "cancel my subscription",nor would I queue for an Apple product,but wait till the "hoo-ha" has become acceptable.Hope things do not end up with lawsuits stalling future inventive growth,no matter what company or individual has their eureka moment.
Steve Jobs's worst moment for me,was talk of "destroying Android".In a competitive world,that was,in my opinion,uncalled for.He was far far better than that (R.I.P)
 
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Nezing, I have a GS2X from telus as well...LOVE IT!...I have my s2 and my iphone 4 by my side all the time. I now run my ip4 off my s2 for data etc. Just because I have the bigger sim card now. I use both for different apps etc. but my goto is the s2 now. just love that screen, its great!

Im glad you see where im coming from. The lawsuit over the galaxy tablet is sooo foolish!
 
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Nezing, I have a GS2X from telus as well...LOVE IT!...I have my s2 and my iphone 4 by my side all the time. I now run my ip4 off my s2 for data etc. Just because I have the bigger sim card now. I use both for different apps etc. but my goto is the s2 now. just love that screen, its great!

Im glad you see where im coming from. The lawsuit over the galaxy tablet is sooo foolish!

That's kind of funny...you called the S2 a "P.O.S." and "plus, its the size of a tablet," in one of your older posts. >.>
 
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yeah, before they had a working unit at my store...I started playing with it, and really liked it so I bought it!....and guess what, it works great, the bigger screen is great, and reception is better than my iphone..
 
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I still maintain that these ridiculous lawsuits would all but dry up (for the most part), if they were required to be settled by the actual plaintiffs (not Champions) in a field at the edge of town by ball or by blade. Many people suddenly realized at the last moment, before things got to the really mortal phase, that dialogue and compromise were the preferred course of action. Very little governmental involvement required. No certainly no industry of litigation required. The righting of endless wrongs fought by other people on paper on one's behalf fueled by buckets of cash isn't very valiant, civilized or noble IMHO. Champions were essentially a construct of merchants and nobility with more money than conviction backed by skill and courage.
 

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I still maintain that these ridiculous lawsuits would all but dry up (for the most part), if they were required to be settled by the actual plaintiffs (not Champions) in a field at the edge of town by ball or by blade. Many people suddenly realized at the last moment, before things got to the really mortal phase, that dialogue and compromise were the preferred course of action. Very little governmental involvement required. No certainly no industry of litigation required. The righting of endless wrongs fought by other people on paper on one's behalf fueled by buckets of cash isn't very valiant, civilized or noble IMHO. Champions were essentially a construct of merchants and nobility with more money than conviction backed by skill and courage.


Remind me not to sue you... :p
 

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