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Adobe drops the ball with Flash on 10.7

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As reported here.

I'm sorry, but this is just sad. Adobe is not some small no name developer. Apple has put out pre-release development builds of Lion for a while before its release. Adobe had plenty of time to put out a Lion compatible update. These comments make it sound like Adobe is just thinking about the implications of Lion now, after it's official release. They seriously dropped the ball here...
 
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I'm using Flash, both 10.3 and now 11 beta on Lion without any problem. Actually the 11 beta only uses about 6-7% CPU on HD videos that I was watching on YouTube.

I realize it's all the vogue to hate on Adoboe and Flash, just like it is Microsoft, but I just wanted to add some personal experience.
 
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To be honest, I have not had any issues myself. It's their comments that bother me though. They talk as if they had no time to prepare for Lion's release.
 
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eliehass said:
To be honest, I have not had any issues myself. It's their comments that bother me though. They talk as if they had no time to prepare for Lion's release.
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They are a massive software developer on both Windows and the Mac, there's no way they could be 100% compatible by the time Lion was released. I'm sure they focused on the high priority stuff first.

So OMG Flash may use more CPU if Lion turned off the acceleration, it's not like it still doesn't work.

And as you I both have stated, we haven't even seen a problem.
 
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Don't recall which article it was, but somewhere this morning I read that Adobe was suggesting the problem might be an Apple issue of disabling hardware acceleration which could be causing problems with Flash.
 
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Not sure if it's Apple or Adobe but just recently, I opened a page containing Flash video. Without even playing the video, my CPU activity started going through the roof. It stayed that way until I closed the page and the browser all together. This was in SL before the upgrade to Lion.

I think I'm with Steve Job. Flash + Apple = Crap
 
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I've had some problems with flash since updating to Lion. Flash doesn't seem to be responsive to mouse clicks. I've experienced this problem when I'm trying to use my webcam online, like uploading a video to youtube or taking a picture on Facebook.
 
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Streaming Flash content is okay in Lion, at least mine is. but Flash Setting is not clickable at all, so if you wnat to allow a website to use your cam and mic you simply can't do it. there's a bug reported on Adobe's site, let's if they fix that soon!

P.S - In System prefs, I did put a site to allow and still got the message to allow or deny but can't click on it.
 
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Jeff Dias said:
Streaming Flash content is okay in Lion, at least mine is. but Flash Setting is not clickable at all, so if you wnat to allow a website to use your cam and mic you simply can't do it. there's a bug reported on Adobe's site, let's if they fix that soon!

P.S - In System prefs, I did put a site to allow and still got the message to allow or deny but can't click on it.
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I had no problem doing it the other day. Which version of Flash are you using?
 
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I can't wait for the death of flash! :p
 
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schweb said:
I have a feeling you'll be waiting awhile. You'll probably be dead before Flash is. ;P
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I don't know... HTML5 is looking good and it probably won't completely kill flash but hopefully it can at least overtake flash. I hate flash so much lol
 
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I don't know... HTML5 is looking good and it probably won't completely kill flash but hopefully it can at least overtake flash. I hate flash so much lol
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HTML 5 has no built-in encryption or access control functionality not to mention the browser makers refuse to standardize on an HTML5 codec.

Until all that gets worked out, it will be awhile.
 
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I just watched a bunch of videos on You Tube. Saw no issues at all.
 
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schweb said:
HTML 5 has no built-in encryption or access control functionality not to mention the browser makers refuse to standardize on an HTML5 codec.

Until all that gets worked out, it will be awhile.
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Yeah it will be a while but I so hope it happens! Lol
 
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To be honest, as much as I hate Flash, if Adobe can fix some of the major issues (resource usage and stability primarily), Flash won't be all that bad. It's both platform and browser agnostic and given the plugin nature, it can do things that HTML5 and JS won't be able to do. Although I'd love to see Flash go away if it retains the same quality, it can be a good thing if it improves.
 
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vansmith said:
To be honest, as much as I hate Flash, if Adobe can fix some of the major issues (resource usage and stability primarily), Flash won't be all that bad. It's both platform and browser agnostic and given the plugin nature, it can do things that HTML5 and JS won't be able to do. Although I'd love to see Flash go away if it retains the same quality, it can be a good thing if it improves.
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That's very true. Flash isn't the devil or anything, with some fixes and stuff like that it could be good.
 

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