Adobe abandoning mobile-flash

[vansmith]

Hey, you started this. And I'm sorry if my brilliance bores you.

 

[Groovetube]

it puts me to sleep too, and as much as the (mac) flash plugin was an adobe abomination at least until Jobs kicked them in the nads over it, when I do embeded video I now have to dance around who what where supports what in the alternative content.

Much like when I switched from pc to mac because I hated the time waste of fooling with something I detested, I just wish the posturing and multi-format warz would end and we just settle on something cool and works.

Yes I'm new here. I'm not a bot nor troll. Really.

 

[BrianLachoreVPI]

Hey, you started this. And I'm sorry if my brilliance bores you.

Hahahaha...oh where to start with this - maybe I'll save it for IRC

 

[vansmith]

it puts me to sleep too, and as much as the (mac) flash plugin was an adobe abomination at least until Jobs kicked them in the nads over it, when I do embeded video I now have to dance around who what where supports what in the alternative content.

This is the joy of multiple source tags:

<video width="320" height="240" controls="controls">
  <source src="movie.mp4" type="video/mp4" />
  <source src="movie.ogg" type="video/ogg" />
  Your browser does not support the video tag.
</video>

You get all browsers that way.

Take a look here for more info.

 

[Groovetube]

This is the joy of multiple source tags:

<video width="320" height="240" controls="controls">
  <source src="movie.mp4" type="video/mp4" />
  <source src="movie.ogg" type="video/ogg" />
  Your browser does not support the video tag.
</video>

You get all browsers that way.

Take a look here for more info.

yep I'm doing a large project in wordpress where I'm doing some crazy flash objects (hey it's a booze company) but I'm "alt-ing" it with all kinds of jquery sexiess and for the first time (I'm late yes) making all the html5 video stuff as well. I cold aaaaalmost kill the flash but perhaps in a couple years.

 

[Scott64]

This is the joy of multiple source tags:

<video width="320" height="240" controls="controls">
  <source src="movie.mp4" type="video/mp4" />
  <source src="movie.ogg" type="video/ogg" />
  Your browser does not support the video tag.
</video>

You get all browsers that way.

Take a look here for more info.

Snazzy. I didn't realize the browser would be responsible for determining which video to play. I haven't had a chance to play much with HTML5 yet

The problem, still, with video is that this will only allow for progressive downloads of the videos. So you can only play what has downloaded so far. In order for you to jump around to parts that haven't yet loaded, like YouTube does, there would be some kind of server-side requirement.

 

[Groovetube]

snazzy when you only have a couple videos, but when you have a site with hundreds, man, uploading two versions gets tiresome.

 

[vansmith]

Snazzy. I didn't realize the browser would be responsible for determining which video to play. I haven't had a chance to play much with HTML5 yet

The problem, still, with video is that this will only allow for progressive downloads of the videos. So you can only play what has downloaded so far. In order for you to jump around to parts that haven't yet loaded, like YouTube does, there would be some kind of server-side requirement.

Yeah, it's great to create a page where you don't have to worry about what browser the user is using.

As for the progress bit, I'm fairly confident that if you click ahead, it will play from there. Granted, it's not as smooth as YouTube but it works.

 

[Scott64]

As for the progress bit, I'm fairly confident that if you click ahead, it will play from there. Granted, it's not as smooth as YouTube but it works.

The only way it could is if the specifications mandated that the browsers tell the server to "resume" downloading the video from the specified point, and even in this case (which seems unlikely to me), the web server would have to support resuming downloads (not all do). Which still means that there would be some server-side requirement. HTML5 is, after all, just a markup language and not an API.

Time will tell, though. I'd love to be wrong, because that would help me out tremendously at work.

 

[vansmith]

I think the best way to see if this is the case it to test it. I might have to try that later.

 

[Scott64]

I think the best way to see if this is the case it to test it. I might have to try that later.

I agree.

I just tested it out and was blown away. It actually will skip ahead. It's not all that smooth, but it works just fine. Sweet!

Makes me wonder why Flash can't do this without a media server...

Additional Information: It's working in Chrome (Windows 7) and Safari (OS X), but a co-worker tried it in Safari (Windows 7) and it didn't work.