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Is the Mac Pro 2008 & 2009 end of life?
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<blockquote data-quote="pigoo3" data-source="post: 1734018" data-attributes="member: 56379"><p>I agree. A 2008 8-core Mac Pro has plenty of horsepower in it...and certainly would still out perform many newer Apple models.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The reason a 2008 8-core Mac Pro is not Sierra capable isn't due to not enough horsepower...it is something technical. There is certainly something missing in the 2008 Mac Pro design (logic board probably) that Apple came up with later on (in at least 2009, 2010 models and newer).</p><p></p><p>Just like when the 2006 and some 2007 Mac Pro's were limited to OS 10.7.5 (VERY shortly after they were released)...due to 32 bit EFI. This was like maybe in the area of only 2-3 years after they were released. You got <strong>8 years</strong> out of your Mac Pro before it couldn't run the latest OS.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Unless you know the exact reason why 2008 Mac Pro's are not able to run Sierra...I'm not sure you can say this. I'm sure Apple would have included 2008 Mac Pro's if the hurdle (whatever it is)...wasn't too high.</p><p></p><p>Again...it's not about computing horsepower in this case. It's certainly something about the logic board design that precludes it from running Sierra properly.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You're arriving to the revolt a little bit late<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /> All the cake, soda, and beer have been consumed...and the dancing girls have gone home!<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p> </p><p>The revolution started about 4 years ago...and not many people showed up. The cake was stale, the soda was flat, the beer was nasty...and the dancing girls were well past their prime!!!<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>I agree. Apple computers now are much less upgradeable than they used to be. But when it came to iMac's, MacBook's, MacBook Pro's, and Mac-Mini's...all we REALLY could ever do is upgrade the RAM and upgrade the hard drive anyway. And other than 1st generation MacBook Air's...we could never do anything with them. Been this way since 2006. And most models have become less servicable since about 2012.</p><p></p><p>The ONLY Apple computer that's really been truely upgradeable & serviceable since 2006 were the original style Mac Pro's. And because of cost...not that many Mac-User's owned them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Good plan!<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Go for it!<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> But if you like the Mac OS...and hate Windows 10. You'll be back!<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>- Nick</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pigoo3, post: 1734018, member: 56379"] I agree. A 2008 8-core Mac Pro has plenty of horsepower in it...and certainly would still out perform many newer Apple models.:) The reason a 2008 8-core Mac Pro is not Sierra capable isn't due to not enough horsepower...it is something technical. There is certainly something missing in the 2008 Mac Pro design (logic board probably) that Apple came up with later on (in at least 2009, 2010 models and newer). Just like when the 2006 and some 2007 Mac Pro's were limited to OS 10.7.5 (VERY shortly after they were released)...due to 32 bit EFI. This was like maybe in the area of only 2-3 years after they were released. You got [B]8 years[/B] out of your Mac Pro before it couldn't run the latest OS.:) Unless you know the exact reason why 2008 Mac Pro's are not able to run Sierra...I'm not sure you can say this. I'm sure Apple would have included 2008 Mac Pro's if the hurdle (whatever it is)...wasn't too high. Again...it's not about computing horsepower in this case. It's certainly something about the logic board design that precludes it from running Sierra properly. You're arriving to the revolt a little bit late:( All the cake, soda, and beer have been consumed...and the dancing girls have gone home!;) The revolution started about 4 years ago...and not many people showed up. The cake was stale, the soda was flat, the beer was nasty...and the dancing girls were well past their prime!!!;) I agree. Apple computers now are much less upgradeable than they used to be. But when it came to iMac's, MacBook's, MacBook Pro's, and Mac-Mini's...all we REALLY could ever do is upgrade the RAM and upgrade the hard drive anyway. And other than 1st generation MacBook Air's...we could never do anything with them. Been this way since 2006. And most models have become less servicable since about 2012. The ONLY Apple computer that's really been truely upgradeable & serviceable since 2006 were the original style Mac Pro's. And because of cost...not that many Mac-User's owned them. Good plan!:) Go for it!:) But if you like the Mac OS...and hate Windows 10. You'll be back!:) - Nick [/QUOTE]
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