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Is the Mac Pro 2008 & 2009 end of life?
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<blockquote data-quote="pigoo3" data-source="post: 1733281" data-attributes="member: 56379"><p>Well as you know Apple did release the 2013 "Trash-Can" Mac Pro...thus this is the re-vamp like it or not.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Every computer model Apple now sells is less upgradeable than the same model was back in 2012...and MUCH less repairable by a DIY owner:</p><p></p><p>- retina MacBook Pro's have soldered in RAM...but luckily the storage is now replaceable/upgradeable (it wasn't at first). But very expensive.</p><p>- 21" iMac's have soldered in RAM...and both 21" and 27" are very difficult to open to do any repairs.</p><p>- MacBook Air's (except for the 1st generation)...are not upgradable after purchase.</p><p>- Mac-Mini's now have soldered in RAM.</p><p>- New version MacBook's are non-upgradable.</p><p>- New Mac Pro. RAM is upgradeable. Storage is upgreadable (but expensive). Video cards are "sort of" upgradable. If a new Mac Pro came with the entry level video card that Apple offered...the video cards are removeable & can be upgraded with a better video card that Apple offered. But again...VERY expensive.</p><p></p><p>If you enjoy having an upgradeable Mac Pro...AND...want to run the latest MacOS. My advice is upgrade to a newer version (but old style) Mac Pro. A 2009, 2010, or 2012 version. You can easily get a 50% increase in performance...and if you went for a 12-core model...you could double your performance...while still retaining all the upgreadeability you enjoy with your current Mac Pro</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's not a bad idea (for those of us that like having a fully upgreadeable "old-school" computer). Problem is there probably just isn't the volume to make something like this a profitable venture for Apple. Apple is in business to make money (like any business). If projected costs exceed projected profits...not a viable project.</p><p></p><p>As far as a 2008 Mac Pro not able to run Sierra. Hey...it's an 8 year old computer. If Sierra wasn't the cut-off point for a 2008 Mac Pro...then it would have been the next OS release or the one after that. Eventually all computers will not be able to run the latest OS. </p><p></p><p>- Can a 1984 Apple computer run Sierra...no.</p><p>- Can a 1990 Apple computer run Sierra...no.</p><p>- Can a 2000 Apple computer run Sierra...no.</p><p>- Can a 2006 Apple comouter run Sierra...no.</p><p>- Can ANY Apple computer before 2009 officially run Sierra...no.</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately no matter how many years a user gets out of a computer...no one likes that their computer can't run the latest OS. And the first reaction is to get upset about it. But we need to "get real"...this is the natural way of things. Time for a new/newer computer!<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> Or keep using what you have running El Capitain.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>- Nick</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pigoo3, post: 1733281, member: 56379"] Well as you know Apple did release the 2013 "Trash-Can" Mac Pro...thus this is the re-vamp like it or not.;) Every computer model Apple now sells is less upgradeable than the same model was back in 2012...and MUCH less repairable by a DIY owner: - retina MacBook Pro's have soldered in RAM...but luckily the storage is now replaceable/upgradeable (it wasn't at first). But very expensive. - 21" iMac's have soldered in RAM...and both 21" and 27" are very difficult to open to do any repairs. - MacBook Air's (except for the 1st generation)...are not upgradable after purchase. - Mac-Mini's now have soldered in RAM. - New version MacBook's are non-upgradable. - New Mac Pro. RAM is upgradeable. Storage is upgreadable (but expensive). Video cards are "sort of" upgradable. If a new Mac Pro came with the entry level video card that Apple offered...the video cards are removeable & can be upgraded with a better video card that Apple offered. But again...VERY expensive. If you enjoy having an upgradeable Mac Pro...AND...want to run the latest MacOS. My advice is upgrade to a newer version (but old style) Mac Pro. A 2009, 2010, or 2012 version. You can easily get a 50% increase in performance...and if you went for a 12-core model...you could double your performance...while still retaining all the upgreadeability you enjoy with your current Mac Pro It's not a bad idea (for those of us that like having a fully upgreadeable "old-school" computer). Problem is there probably just isn't the volume to make something like this a profitable venture for Apple. Apple is in business to make money (like any business). If projected costs exceed projected profits...not a viable project. As far as a 2008 Mac Pro not able to run Sierra. Hey...it's an 8 year old computer. If Sierra wasn't the cut-off point for a 2008 Mac Pro...then it would have been the next OS release or the one after that. Eventually all computers will not be able to run the latest OS. - Can a 1984 Apple computer run Sierra...no. - Can a 1990 Apple computer run Sierra...no. - Can a 2000 Apple computer run Sierra...no. - Can a 2006 Apple comouter run Sierra...no. - Can ANY Apple computer before 2009 officially run Sierra...no. Unfortunately no matter how many years a user gets out of a computer...no one likes that their computer can't run the latest OS. And the first reaction is to get upset about it. But we need to "get real"...this is the natural way of things. Time for a new/newer computer!:) Or keep using what you have running El Capitain.:):) - Nick [/QUOTE]
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