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Good morning America, It is with a heavy heart that I hope not too many of our illustrious members end up with the dreaded lurgy. Mavis and I are both OK thanks but under a strict curfew of not going out shopping etc for three months, we have to rely on family members to keep the store cupboard reasonably stocked. We are allowed into the back garden (yard) but that is all.

Very best regards to all from Keith in Derby England.
 
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Glad you're OK. I'm working from home and only going out for essentials. It's not bad where we are, but it's going to get worse. Of course, the families of the 5 people who have died here might think it's very bad, and can't get any worse for them.
 

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Working from home for the foreseeable future here as well in the east coast of the US. I think staying home is the best avenue right now, but for those that can't work from home, this is a huge problem.
 

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Glad to hear that all s well for you and Mavis. Schools here are shut down and will be until at least the Monday after Easter. I'm planning to catch up on a few things in the meantime. SWMBO is also strongly hinting that there will be several tasks on the "honey do" list.
 
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Ohio has shut everything but essential industries down. My son works at Silfex and they have crystal growers that can not be shut down plus they make silicon parts for critical stuff. So he is working but very tired of having his temperature scanned.

I have to work on Sundays when we stream our service, but other than that I am home. My 79 year old husband works as an electrical inspector for two different departments. One has closed down and the other has not. Funny part is the one that closed down is much more busy and in a bigger city. Our little county department seems to have the opinion it can’t come here. So far, we have had no official cases but in my in my opinion, it is only a matter of time.

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Same here in the Dallas - Fort Worth area of Texas. Most of Texas is rural but there are major urban population cities such as Dallas, San Antonio, Austin, Houston, that are mostly shut down with folks working from home. My wife and I do a lot of volunteer work at several local nursing homes but those are now on lockdown which means no visitors of any kind.

Anybody remember that movie comedy... "Stir Crazy"? :rofl

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Here in Virginia we are also on a sort of lockdown, with all but "essential" businesses shuttered. Right now in our immediate county there are 4 cases, none in the city proper. I'm about 100 yards inside the city limits, so the city line is protection, right? As for Stir Crazy, I mentioned on Facebook that "The Shining" is looking more and more like a documentary.

I feel sorry for restaurant owners and workers who have basically been thrown out of work or out of business. One can only hope the $2T bill helps them somehow. We'll see if it does.
 

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One can only hope the $2T bill helps them somehow.

Can you imagine what our national debt is going to look like after this is all over?

Stay well Jake.

PS: I guess you have cancelled your trip to the UK?
 
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Sadly, yes. Working on Plan B in November, praying that this is behind us by then. Virgin Atlantic is letting us rebook with no fees, but some of the cottages we had rented are not so flexible, which I can understand. Sadly, I had not gotten total trip insurance, just the medical coverage, so I'm going to end up out of pocket, but that's life...
 
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Daily life isn't much different for me but I am missing socialising and eating out. I would generally have a meal out with friends a couple of times a week and pop into one of the many café/bars for breakfast or lunch after walking my dog. Everything in the town centre is closed except the butcher, chemist, newsagent and a small Sainsbury's supermarket. It's very sad because the town was doing so well after years of falling trade - loads of new bars, cafés and restaurants in walking distance. I ended up in tears in the butcher last Friday having seen all the 'closed because of...' and them still open, albeit with very little stock; supplies have increased since. I don't know where I'd be without social media. My young cousin and her daughter have ventured into my back yard on sunny days (against the rules) but we have kept 2m apart!

One holiday I had planned for May 20 (river boat cruise on the Danube) is certain to be cancelled and I think another in July - cruise of the Greek islands - could be in jeopardy. I am hoping it all calms down by October when I'm due to go to Kerala in southern india.

I think our government was tardy in bringing in restrictions on movement and feel London should be quarantined completely. If you look at the mapping of the virus, it shows a spread via the transport links (road and rail) to the north and midlands. Now the PM - who was happily shaking hands with all and sundry, and holding press conferences in a crowded room earlier this week - has it. Luckily there has been a massive package of aid for the public though the Tories must regret starving the NHS of cash. I think, hope, the world will be a better place once we come out of the other side.

Stay home, keep safe.
 
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Today is my daughter's birthday and yesterday was my granddaughter's birthday. My wife was going to take them out to tea at a tea room about 40 minutes away, but that has been closed. However the owner has started offering "Tea To Go," where she provides to-go boxes of scones, savories and sweets. So my wife bought Tea to Go for daughter and granddaughter, then one for herself. They each picked them up independently, then used a teleconferencing app to share the time together. Worked perfectly!
 
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I think when we come out the other side of this the stories we will have will be amazing and worth sharing.

Lisa
 

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My wife and I had a flight from Bali (Indonesia) back to Australia on the 29th but events started accelerating in Australia and I believe in Indonesia too, although for some reason the government didn't seem too keen on divulging numbers. I started getting a little worried when Australia announced that they would be closing their borders to all but Australian residents as of 20th so we changed our flight to 23rd and just as well we did. As of two days ago all returnees to Australia are being placed in hotels in their city of arrival (regardless of where they live) for 14 days mandatory isolation under guard. To top that off Indonesia has closed its borders to entry and departure.

We are now about to enter our second week of mandatory self isolation in our home in Melbourne. Thanks to our children, friends and home food deliveries from food chains to people in isolation, pensioners, disabled or sick we have everything we need. Today would have been a nice day to go to the beach but that is banned, all non essential shops and services are closed so even if we could go out there is nowhere to go.

I consider myself to be extremely lucky even though we had to close down our homestay in Bali that may not be permanent even during this pandemic. We had thought to lease it out to one client as there are a lot of expats in Bali who have their families with them and need long term safe private accomodation. We have a skeleton staff on half pay to maintain the place and we keep our fingers crossed.
We haven't lost our jobs, we're not sick, we have family and friends and vegetables an fruit growing in our backyard and we are not cooped up in a hotel room or ships cabin.

So far our medical system is coping with the COVID-19 cases we have in Victoria and if we can keep flattening the curve it will continue to be able to cope.

I wish you all well, stay safe, we will make it through this.
 
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I echo Sue's comments above.

Ten years of unnecessary austerity measures have left our health service woefully underfunded and under equipped. The government that imposed those measures is now reliant on the very service it decimated to protect and save us to the extent that it is sickening to see them wearing their NHS lapel badges and lauding the magnificent work our health professionals do. How dare they. It's because of these politicians and their big business rules attitude that we are in this mess to start with. If they ever, ever make cuts to this vital and wonderful service again then we deserve everything we get.

On a personal note, as a myeloma patient (albeit in partial remission) I am more at risk of catching the virus and developing serious symptoms so yes, I am worried. I am more worried though for my wife who although working from home has to go out once a week to shop and get medication, and for my 18 year old daughter who suffers with terrible health anxiety and is constantly trawling for bad news. I've told her to stop but it's no good. I wish I was able to do more; enrol in the volunteer programme maybe - but for obvious reasons I can't.

When all this is over, and it will be, the world and how we live in it will be unrecognisable. Government intervention and stimulus will have to be "paid for"; by us naturally through even more austerity measures. But my biggest fear is that we fail to learn from this and within a couple of years return to the usual hand to mouth existence of our health service with no forward planning. And when we are hit with another pandemic we'll be back to square one.

Sorry, rant over.
 
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Many thanks to all who have taken the trouble to reply to my best wishes. I too am a person of high risk, I suffer from Chronic Lymphacitic Leukemia, (among other maladies), whilst not life threatening it does weaken my resistance to disease and infection. As a result I must be extra careful when mixing in these uncertain times. VERY BEST WISHES to all our members from Keith in Derby England.
 
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I hope that world see the end of this deadly pandemic soon. People should avoid going out and spend their time at home. There are plenty of things they can do in their home, they can play some family games with their kids and other family members. They can get ideas from internet or some recordings of a very popular TV show "MINUTE TO WIN IT" or playing video games is also a great way to spend quality time at home. I myself is spending a lot of time playing video games. The one game which I am playing mostly in these days is Call of Duty: Warzone which is the latest release by COD and every battle royale games lover must play this game and it is very likely that he/she would definitely like this game. Looking to get more information on this amazing game? Visit downsights.com which is a great source for COD: Warzone news, tips, tricks and more.
 
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My personal thanks to our members from the UK and the insightful information they have provided regarding their health care system. I'm rather fearful that our current list of presidential wanna be's are all heading down the path of governmental universal health care.

My wife and I are both seniors and have as our health plan what we call here in the US, "Medicare". However, as most folks who are currently on Medicare will tell you, it's not adequate and does not cover all medical bills. We are fortunate enough to have supplemental health insurance from my previous employment with the US govt.

A government takeover of the US healthcare system would not only make matters worse but very likely bankrupt the national treasury. The current crisis with the covid-19 virus has shown how unprepared our health system is when a national emergency or pandemic occurs.

To all our members: Stay safe and in good health, and don't forget to wash your hands. ;)

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Here follows a rant in support of our wonderful NHS.

The NHS was created in 1948 to provide 'health care free at the point of delivery'. We all pay National Insurance (% of salary) which covers medical and dental services, medication, vaccinations and certain benefits. Before 1948 everyone had to pay for all treatment, from a doctor appointment, any medication or hospital treatment. It's possible to buy private medical insurance: there are private service providers; many medics work in both the NHS and the private sector. Any complications and a patient is transferred to the NHS where subsequent treatment is free. You don't have to die because you can't afford to pay.

With advances in medicine, resources have been in great demand and successive governments, both Labour and Tory, have sought to privatise sections. For the last ten years it has been seriously underfunded by the Tory government, alongside an increase in training fees for professional staff. (eg. There were nearly 94,000 full-time equivalent advertised vacancies in hospital and community services between July and September 2018, including 40,000 nurses.) The way PM Johnson talks, you'd think his party had nothing to do with it. There has been a commitment to recruit more staff since the 2019 election.

So we come to the Covid-19 pandemic with an immense shortage of skilled staff. Sufferers are still treated FREE; no worries about having a big bank balance or an insurance policy which may or may not cover you, force you to chose a particular hospital, withdraw funding at a time of their choosing. The joke in the UK is that if Breaking Bad's Walt had had cancer here he would have had free treatment - no financial worries - and no need to make crystal meth!

Both UK and US governments had plenty time to prepare for the outbreak but Trump chose to say it was no more than flu, would disappear, and our lot were simply incompetant. They are getting in gear now and we have to follow the lockdown rules to ensure our own health and that of others.

I believe implicitly in the fundamental ethos of the NHS and comparable systems work in Canada and many European countries. I've had immediate treatment over the years for pneumonia, facial cellulitis, a brain tumour, successive kidney stones and, most recently, suspected Lyme disease; I did queue for a knee op. For all the current NHS failings, I'm glad I live here and not in the US where its socialist principles seem to be anathema.
 
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Lots of urban myths in there, Sue. My SIL's brother is an ER doctor. He has been in that practice for over twenty years. Never turned away a patient because they could not pay. Hospitals will treat anyone who shows up, insurance, cash, or not. And in every one of the fifty states there is a program called Medicaid that covers people who are uninsured. Not a Federal program, but run by the individual state, with Federal contributions to the funding, that pays the doctors/hospitals for treating uninsured. The US is significantly larger than the UK and the government setup is different, so there is no American equivalent to the NHS, but there is the Federal Medicare program for seniors and disabled folks and Medicaid for the poor. Plus, if a person has served in the military, there is the Veterans' Administration hospital network that accepts all veterans, free. Nobody in the US goes without treatment if they want it. Not even those illegally here. Show up, get treated. That is how it works.

If Walt wanted treatment, it would have been available, but then no story, right?
 

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