Len Tomko:
Installing 10.4.11 went well except when running Safari 3.0. I was unable to get to any web pages. Clicking on a Bookmark would not even transfer an address into the address box. FireFox still worked. I believe I was able to trace the problem down to having an old version of PicLens installed (www.piclens.com/site/safari/). There is a removal option for the old PicLens under the Safari>View menu. I ran it then everything worked.
Safari v3 installed by update 10.4.11 repeatedly crashed on launch. Removing safari extender and safari plus as well as trashing the preferences file resolved this problem. Fixing permissions and resetting the parameter ram did not.
James Wages:
To supplement the Safari 3 crash report I sent to MacInTouch a few hours ago, I realized that I did in fact have a 3rd party add-on: Speed Download 4. After deleting the "SpeedDownload Enhancer" folder from hard disk/Library/InputManagers/, I was able to eliminate the Safari 3.0.4 crash. I then downloaded the lastest version installer for Speed Download and now have Speed Download 4.1.17 running fine in Safari 3.0.4.
All said, if you are having Safari 3 crashes after updating to 10.4.11, you may need to reinstall Speed Download 4.
Paul Specter:
Quick question: Is there any documentation anywhere that describes the difference between the final, released version of Safari 3 vs. Safari 2? I've looked for a whole 15 minutes through MacInTouch and Apple's website and can't find this information.
And one observation about the 10.4.11 update: There are plenty of warnings about 3rd party add-ons and modifications to Safari that could cause problems when updating to Safari 3. We can't help people that don't read Macintouch, but for those that do, please take this seriously before upgrading and then complaining that you are having Safari problems. Too bad that Apple didn't build into their update script a check to ensure that Safari was unmodified and to at least warn the user if this was the case. It might have saved people that don't read update notes before proceeding.
Scott Meves:
I had problems with the Safari 3 beta version: after opening the program it would immediately crash. I then realized I had both the debug menu turned on as well as the Safari WebDev tools installed. After turning off the debug menu and uninstalling WebDev, Safari 3 works great.
Ray Drainville:
Like others, I've also had crashes with Safari. And, like others, the answer appears to be in the presence of items in ~/Library/Input Managers, which incidentally is not supported by Apple (for security reasons among others).
I had three input managers for Safari:
* 1Password (a password manager & generator)
* Edit in TextMate (a hook into TextMate, useful for editing large text e.g., on a blog)
* SafariTidy (an essential tool for web developers, it establishes the validity of your [X]HTML documents)
It turns out that SafariTidy was the culprit. Kasper Nauwelaerts, the developer, has developed an update for the *10.5* version of Safari, but not for *10.4*. He's noted he's aware of the problem, but doesn't have an estimated release date.
Those of us who rely upon such items (Saft & SIMBL are other popular input managers) are in something of a quandary. As John Gruber implied regarding input managers and unsupported software, this situation isn't going to get better but worse as time passes.
Uninstalling PicLens
To remove PicLens from your computer, select the Remove PicLens option from the View > PicLens menu in Safari, or delete the PicLens folder from the /Library/InputManagers folder of your hard disk.