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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dtownley1" data-source="post: 355043" data-attributes="member: 20564">not just that either. I think macbooks now come with 1gig of ram (I bought mine earlier, and had to pay for the upgrade), so there's that as well as the hard-drive, DVD drive and so on. You'd be hard pressed to find a better featured windows laptop for a better price. I've seen more expensive ones with 512mb ram that come with Vista free (wow! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />) - yet I recall reading somewhere that Vista required 1gig or ram to run?Anyway, the point is macs some with an impressive array of both hardware and software to get you running. If you're into gaming, a macbook pro would serve you better, but for pretty much anything and everything else, a macbook will do just fine. I've been pushing mine a bit recently, with a lot of fast paced graphics work, and it's kept up with me beautifully. Bobtomay raised a good point about tweaking. I only recently started to use a few system optimisation apps, and I can honestly say, I saw instant improvements. Startup was faster, as well as other operations - I was quite impressed. While not on the level you're used to, there are some tools out there to help keep things running smoothly.</blockquote>

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