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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chud" data-source="post: 1020648" data-attributes="member: 145344">Well, I might call him that, but then again...  I never referred to him as my friend, just a knowledgeable PhD in his field who was an ***** in a lab meeting.  <img src="/mac_images/images/smilies/Smirk.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":Smirk:" title="Smirk    :Smirk:" data-shortname=":Smirk:" />Like I said, I understand the distinction (particularly since several posters have made sure to define them here) but again, the catchall phrase is virus and the ordinary user makes no real distinction between viruses, malware, spyware, trojans, and what-have-you.  That was my point with the original poster who spoke of no viruses with OS X.  The OP was slammed "FFS" for asking if his father's issues might be due to a virus.</blockquote>