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<blockquote data-quote="Graphite" data-source="post: 8637" data-attributes="member: 60"><p><span style="color: blue">trpnmonkey41 explained alot, hopefully I can do the same and try to clean up a missing question.</span></p><p></p><p>Well, first off I'd like to say I'm glad I found this forum. I figured there was something like this out there, I just had to look for about 4 seconds.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: blue"><strong>Graphite</strong>: Welcome to the forum! Were glad you found it and glad your switching to the mac world</span></p><p></p><p>I'm a video production student, and have been basically self taught on PC's and editing software in general. I used to do PC IT work, which is just wretched <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> .</p><p></p><p><span style="color: blue"><strong>Graphite</strong>: I have experienced a little bit of video work on PCs as well, and I don't like it either <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></span></p><p></p><p>The realization I have come to is that I need to be using industry standards for editing, which in this case is Final Cut 4. And sadly, I can't just put it on my pc. **** ain't gunna happen. So, having said that I've been looking into G5's and G4's trying to decide on which behemoth of a system to get.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: blue"><strong>Graphite</strong>: I would go with G5 2-2Ghz just because.. its a G5 <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> but...</span></p><p></p><p>I guess my main questions are, besides the 64 bit architecture on a G5, why is it so much faster than a G4? The other end of it is, you have to understand I grew up on AMD chips, so I've always supported the AMD vs. Intel war. Because AMD no longer uses the same measureing system that Intel does, its a little more diffuicult, but certainly easier to understand how an AMD 3200+ would compare to say, a P4 2.8, or 3.02 roughly.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: blue"><strong>Graphite</strong>: The G5 is faster because of even wider data routes than the G4, the Pentiums have narrow data streams which calls for larger Ghz to make up for the loss in speed. P4 = |D| G4 = |DD| G5= |DDD| As a simple graphical example (D being data <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> ).</span></p><p></p><p>I don't understand how Mac's gighz ratings are. I'd feel better if I just understood that a G4 1.25 = to a p4 3.0, or a p4 2.0. That would help my understanding of Macs tremendously, and I wouldn't feel so nausious when I'm looking at a dual 1.25 costing as much as a dual p4 2.8</p><p></p><p><span style="color: blue"><strong>Graphite</strong>: Macs Ghz ratings are the same as anyone elses, only their chips can boost speed. Think of it like a car. You have 2 cars, both are the same but one has a turbo on it (the mac wider data streams)</span></p><p></p><p>The other question, is if you were trying to get someone to switch, what features might you tell them are obviously great advantages to going mac. I'm fully prepared to purchase one, I just need to know better what I'm getting into.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: blue"><strong>Graphite</strong>: trpnmonkey4 covered most of those really well <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />.. Macs are better for graphics as you know. Its pretty. If you can do it on your PC you can do it on your Mac twice as fast. Disk Burning is easy (no extra software) example: pop disk in, click and drag your files to disk, drag disk to trash where it will burn. (my mind is blank and I can't think of anything right now)</span></p><p></p><p>Thanks, in advance</p><p></p><p>Rob</p><p></p><p><span style="color: blue"><strong>Graphite</strong>: np </span></p><p></p><p><strong>and</strong></p><p></p><p>Really? There's no need to defrag? I was thinking about that too, trying to figure out if I needed like a norton system works or something for it.</p><p> </p><p><span style="color: blue"><strong>Graphite</strong>: Nope no need at all. There are nice utilities though <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> I use System Optimizer, and cocktail, then theres DiskWarrior and thats cool... every mac users has their own preference as to what they like more. </span></p><p> </p><p> How about Firewalls, or is Mac OS. X safe enough not to need one?</p><p> </p><p><span style="color: blue"><strong>Graphite</strong>: everyone should have a firewall, there is one built in on MacOSX <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> I use Norton and a hardware firewall. They will save from Pings and people getting personal info. Though Mac OSX is probly the safest OS ever. My guess is its due to Apple looking for holes in its software then patching them as soon as they are found (they patch things before anyone else finds out about them, unlike M$ <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> )</span></p><p> </p><p> btw, thanks for replying so quickly, I'll be reading over those links</p><p> </p><p> Rob</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Graphite, post: 8637, member: 60"] [color=blue]trpnmonkey41 explained alot, hopefully I can do the same and try to clean up a missing question.[/color] Well, first off I'd like to say I'm glad I found this forum. I figured there was something like this out there, I just had to look for about 4 seconds. [color=blue][b]Graphite[/b]: Welcome to the forum! Were glad you found it and glad your switching to the mac world[/color] I'm a video production student, and have been basically self taught on PC's and editing software in general. I used to do PC IT work, which is just wretched ;) . [color=blue][b]Graphite[/b]: I have experienced a little bit of video work on PCs as well, and I don't like it either :)[/color] The realization I have come to is that I need to be using industry standards for editing, which in this case is Final Cut 4. And sadly, I can't just put it on my pc. **** ain't gunna happen. So, having said that I've been looking into G5's and G4's trying to decide on which behemoth of a system to get. [color=blue][b]Graphite[/b]: I would go with G5 2-2Ghz just because.. its a G5 :D but...[/color] I guess my main questions are, besides the 64 bit architecture on a G5, why is it so much faster than a G4? The other end of it is, you have to understand I grew up on AMD chips, so I've always supported the AMD vs. Intel war. Because AMD no longer uses the same measureing system that Intel does, its a little more diffuicult, but certainly easier to understand how an AMD 3200+ would compare to say, a P4 2.8, or 3.02 roughly. [color=blue][b]Graphite[/b]: The G5 is faster because of even wider data routes than the G4, the Pentiums have narrow data streams which calls for larger Ghz to make up for the loss in speed. P4 = |D| G4 = |DD| G5= |DDD| As a simple graphical example (D being data :) ).[/color] I don't understand how Mac's gighz ratings are. I'd feel better if I just understood that a G4 1.25 = to a p4 3.0, or a p4 2.0. That would help my understanding of Macs tremendously, and I wouldn't feel so nausious when I'm looking at a dual 1.25 costing as much as a dual p4 2.8 [color=blue][b]Graphite[/b]: Macs Ghz ratings are the same as anyone elses, only their chips can boost speed. Think of it like a car. You have 2 cars, both are the same but one has a turbo on it (the mac wider data streams)[/color] The other question, is if you were trying to get someone to switch, what features might you tell them are obviously great advantages to going mac. I'm fully prepared to purchase one, I just need to know better what I'm getting into. [color=blue][b]Graphite[/b]: trpnmonkey4 covered most of those really well :).. Macs are better for graphics as you know. Its pretty. If you can do it on your PC you can do it on your Mac twice as fast. Disk Burning is easy (no extra software) example: pop disk in, click and drag your files to disk, drag disk to trash where it will burn. (my mind is blank and I can't think of anything right now)[/color] Thanks, in advance Rob [color=blue][b]Graphite[/b]: np [/color] [b]and[/b] Really? There's no need to defrag? I was thinking about that too, trying to figure out if I needed like a norton system works or something for it. [color=blue][b]Graphite[/b]: Nope no need at all. There are nice utilities though :) I use System Optimizer, and cocktail, then theres DiskWarrior and thats cool... every mac users has their own preference as to what they like more. [/color] How about Firewalls, or is Mac OS. X safe enough not to need one? [color=blue][b]Graphite[/b]: everyone should have a firewall, there is one built in on MacOSX :) I use Norton and a hardware firewall. They will save from Pings and people getting personal info. Though Mac OSX is probly the safest OS ever. My guess is its due to Apple looking for holes in its software then patching them as soon as they are found (they patch things before anyone else finds out about them, unlike M$ :) )[/color] btw, thanks for replying so quickly, I'll be reading over those links Rob [/QUOTE]
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