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<blockquote data-quote="MacInWin" data-source="post: 1924657" data-attributes="member: 396914">I'm on Ventura. I dropped a sound into the ~/Library/Sounds folder in Ventura. Gave it a weird name to make it easy to find it. Then opened the System Settings and under the &quot;Sound&quot; section I saw that the weird name was in the Alert Sound list. Then restarted Mail (this was a required step), and in the Mail Settings, under General, the new file appeared as an option for &quot;New messages sound.&quot; However, I didn't see a place to change the alerts for any other Mail operation, like deleting a message. And Messages never saw it, even after a reboot. I don't think Messages is changeable directly. So, what I said in post #2 is still valid. Put the sound in ~/Library/Sounds, and if that folder is not there, create it and put the sound file there. NOT /Library, but ~/Library. It works. But it is limited to a system sound, and may or may not change the sounds in the apps. The &quot;dead horse&quot; that is being beaten is the idea that you can change /Library in Ventura. You cannot. You. Can. Not. &nbsp;It's that simple.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MacInWin, post: 1924657, member: 396914"] I'm on Ventura. I dropped a sound into the ~/Library/Sounds folder in Ventura. Gave it a weird name to make it easy to find it. Then opened the System Settings and under the "Sound" section I saw that the weird name was in the Alert Sound list. Then restarted Mail (this was a required step), and in the Mail Settings, under General, the new file appeared as an option for "New messages sound." However, I didn't see a place to change the alerts for any other Mail operation, like deleting a message. And Messages never saw it, even after a reboot. I don't think Messages is changeable directly. So, what I said in post #2 is still valid. Put the sound in ~/Library/Sounds, and if that folder is not there, create it and put the sound file there. NOT /Library, but ~/Library. It works. But it is limited to a system sound, and may or may not change the sounds in the apps. The "dead horse" that is being beaten is the idea that you can change /Library in Ventura. You cannot. You. Can. Not. It's that simple. [/QUOTE]

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