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<blockquote data-quote="MacInWin" data-source="post: 1924648" data-attributes="member: 396914"><p>Patrick, the issue is not that permissions cannot be changed. They can. However, within the SYSTEM Volume, changes are NOT permitted. And the default sounds folder is in that Volume. Apple's rationale for that is that by locking (and encrypting) the SYSTEM files, malware is prohibited from getting established in the system. Trying to change the sounds in /Library is as useful as beating one's head on a wall. All pain, no gain.</p><p></p><p>There are ways to shut down all of the security that Apple has built in, but it is difficult to do and opens the system to all and every malware risk that exists. Plus, at the next update/upgrade, all of those locks will be reset, thus making any change made by disabling security temporary, at best. And if you turn security off, make a change, and then turn security back on, it will detect the change, warn you that the system is not safe and revert the SYSTEM volume back to its original state. At every boot, the hashtags of the SYSTEM image is compared to the hashtag it should be and if it's not correct, the boot image is replaced with a new image.</p><p></p><p>Application developers need to change where the sounds are stored to enable users to change them, if the developers want that to happen. Or make it possible to change through some Settings function. I seriously doubt Apple has any intention to do that, given that malware can be carried by sound files. </p><p></p><p>That said, Mail <em><strong>might </strong></em>allow sounds in the user Library to be used instead of the system Library, but at this point none of the old ways to make sounds change work. Ventura is very much a different beast than all the previous versions of macOS and OSX.</p><p></p><p>For the OP, it might be more fruitful to see if there is a third party app that allows configuration of sounds rather that beating this dead horse.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MacInWin, post: 1924648, member: 396914"] Patrick, the issue is not that permissions cannot be changed. They can. However, within the SYSTEM Volume, changes are NOT permitted. And the default sounds folder is in that Volume. Apple's rationale for that is that by locking (and encrypting) the SYSTEM files, malware is prohibited from getting established in the system. Trying to change the sounds in /Library is as useful as beating one's head on a wall. All pain, no gain. There are ways to shut down all of the security that Apple has built in, but it is difficult to do and opens the system to all and every malware risk that exists. Plus, at the next update/upgrade, all of those locks will be reset, thus making any change made by disabling security temporary, at best. And if you turn security off, make a change, and then turn security back on, it will detect the change, warn you that the system is not safe and revert the SYSTEM volume back to its original state. At every boot, the hashtags of the SYSTEM image is compared to the hashtag it should be and if it's not correct, the boot image is replaced with a new image. Application developers need to change where the sounds are stored to enable users to change them, if the developers want that to happen. Or make it possible to change through some Settings function. I seriously doubt Apple has any intention to do that, given that malware can be carried by sound files. That said, Mail [I][B]might [/B][/I]allow sounds in the user Library to be used instead of the system Library, but at this point none of the old ways to make sounds change work. Ventura is very much a different beast than all the previous versions of macOS and OSX. For the OP, it might be more fruitful to see if there is a third party app that allows configuration of sounds rather that beating this dead horse. [/QUOTE]
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