Using Tiger Disk Utility

[ThomasK]

Happy 4th to everyone!

I recently received an iMac (G3/350mhz) and want to upgrade the hard drive. I installed a Western Digital 40Gb, Upped the ram to 384Mb.

Now here is my problem... I don't have the OS9 disks, but I do have OS X Tiger.

So I stick in the CD and it starts. I go to the utilities menu, and select disk utility. I partition the drive in 2 parts, one 6.8Gb (same size as original HD), and 30 something for the second partition.

Both partitions pass the verify, and first aid says it didn't need to run, but when I go to install Tiger, I get to the select destination, and I cannot use either partition. The error is the same for both partitions, that OS X cannot startup from this volume.

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks,
...Thomas Kloos

 

[Mr Bobbins]

I'd check that the jumper settings on the hard drive are correct.

Have you read the readme file on the tiger install disk ? Maybe something in their that would help if it isn't the jumper settings. I've had Panther running fine on a iMac 333mhz but can't remember if I'd every installed Tiger so am not sure weather it's compatible.

The system needs to be in the first 8Gig of the harddrive which needs to be partitioned as you have already done. So that should be fine. Could also check that you formatted the disk correctly as a 'Mac OS Extended (Journaled)' format.

 

[ThomasK]

I'd check that the jumper settings on the hard drive are correct.

Have you read the readme file on the tiger install disk ? Maybe something in their that would help if it isn't the jumper settings. I've had Panther running fine on a iMac 333mhz but can't remember if I'd every installed Tiger so am not sure weather it's compatible.

The system needs to be in the first 8Gig of the harddrive which needs to be partitioned as you have already done. So that should be fine. Could also check that you formatted the disk correctly as a 'Mac OS Extended (Journaled)' format.

The jumper is set at default. (Single Drive). Tiger is compatible, because I had it installed on the stock 6.8 Gb drive, and I partitioned the drive in a 6.8Gb partition with the rest of the space as a second drive. It is set as Mac OS Extended (Journaled) as well.

I glanced through the readme, but didn't see anything that stuck out with my situation. I will try setting the jumper as Master instead of Single drive and see if that helps.

When in the disk utility, I run the info, it stats both partition can be bootable.. so Im really confused on the whole issue.

Thanks for your reply.

...Thomas

 

[dtravis7]

You might want to check out www.lowendmac.com and go to the imac section. There is a lot of info there about upgrading the imacs and problems and solutions. Also check out http://www.xlr8yourmac.com.

Is your imac the slot load and does it have a DVD drive? Firewire ports?

 

[ThomasK]

You might want to check out www.lowendmac.com and go to the imac section. There is a lot of info there about upgrading the imacs and problems and solutions. Also check out http://www.xlr8yourmac.com.

Is your imac the slot load and does it have a DVD drive? Firewire ports?

It is the slot load, no DVD or firewire. I have an external USB DVD burning Im hoping to be able to use with it. I'm a windows convert, and I fell in love with the mac almost immediately.

I did search the forums, but didn't come up with anything I felt was my problem. It looks like it was the jumper setting. I guess Windows is a little more forgiving as far as the drive jumper settings go.

Thanks for the reply,
...Thomas

 

[Mr Bobbins]

USB dvd burning should work but it will be slow due to the usb 1.1 speed limatation.

When I upgraded my iMac 333mhz with a maxtor 40 gig harddrive I had a problem with the jumper settings but managed to work it out after trying a few different ones out. So I hope that that is the problem.

I also at one point had two harddrives connected with the lead going out the side of the machine and into a box that I made out of lego (Hmm, wish I could find the photos). Anyway that also worked fine. Maybe if you can't get the 40 gig harddrive to work you could try doing that just to see if the harddrive will work ?

Is the harddrive second hand ?

 

[ThomasK]

USB dvd burning should work but it will be slow due to the usb 1.1 speed limatation.

When I upgraded my iMac 333mhz with a maxtor 40 gig harddrive I had a problem with the jumper settings but managed to work it out after trying a few different ones out. So I hope that that is the problem.

I also at one point had two harddrives connected with the lead going out the side of the machine and into a box that I made out of lego (Hmm, wish I could find the photos). Anyway that also worked fine. Maybe if you can't get the 40 gig harddrive to work you could try doing that just to see if the harddrive will work ?

Is the harddrive second hand ?

It was the jumper. Thanks a million for that one.. It didnt like the master setting, or the single drive setting. It had to be the factory default setting.

I will say I'm going to have to figure out some cooling methods. It gets really hot now, a lot hotter then what I remember with the old drive.

I'm looking at the Modder websites going to add a fan or to, and maybe even a light bar for some nice effects.

The drive wasn't new, I had it in a windows machine that I wasn't using anymore.

Let me know if you find your pictures of the "lego drive" would like to see that...

Thanks a million Mr Bobbins!

...Thomas

 

[Mr Bobbins]

Glad I could help.

One thing I also replaced on the 333mhz as well was also the fan. Mainly because it made loads of noise, sounded like a hair dryer so I got one of those Fans with a heat sensor on it which worked out fine.

If I remember correctly some of the CRT iMacs and i think your model also had no fans but are convection-cooled so that maybe worth looking into before making any alterations.