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<blockquote data-quote="goodolebwinches" data-source="post: 10953"><p>a.) Yes, the SCSI drive has to be set to slave. Even if it is the only SCSI in the chain. This is because your SCSI drive is currently your START-UP(BOOT) DRIVE. Adding other master drive confuses your system more than your situation confuses you and me.</p><p></p><p>b.) Take things slowly. You appear confused and to be going too fast. You've got a drive that works. You don't know how well your upgrades will work out. Don't mess up and fudge the information on your SCSI drive. Keep that information safe. You will need this drive, because it works. Please trust me. Do not reformat this drive any time soon. If all fails you can always return to this SCSI drive to make your system work.</p><p></p><p>c.) Screw that ZIP DISK crap. You don't need that garbage, and it is only adding to your confusion in this situation. All the utilities you need are on the OS X install CD. </p><p></p><p>d.) Please sit that ZIP DISK and your SCSI DRIVE aside for now. They aren't going anywhere and the data from the drive can always be added later to your new drive at any time.</p><p></p><p>e.) Remove that SCSI DRIVE completely and sit it aside. REPEAT....REMOVE THAT SCSI DRIVE AND SET IT ASIDE...AND WHILE YOU'RE AT IT SIT THAT **** ZIP DISK DOWN. </p><p></p><p>f.) I was there in Estill Springs, Tennessee circa: 1987. I saw him on that freezer, it was real, trust me.</p><p></p><p>g.) Forget the 20GB hard drive for now. It, like the SCSI, can always be added later.</p><p></p><p>YOU HAVE AN OS 9 INSTALL CD(you never mentioned this before...this is important stuff), YOU HAVE AN OS X INSTALL CD(so I believe), YOU HAVE AN NEW 80GB HARD DRIVE.</p><p>IF THIS IS ALL CORRECT THEN PLEASE SET ASIDE 2 HOURS AND FOLLOW THESE INSTRUCTIONS:</p><p></p><p>1.) Insert the OS 9 INSTALL CD in the CD DRIVE. REPEAT OS 9 CD.</p><p>2.) Now, SHUT DOWN the system, and un-plug it.</p><p>3.) Remove the SCSI drive completely now.</p><p>4.) Install the 80GB hard drive with jumpers set to master...and do not run it through the PCI card. Use the ATA/IDE cable that connects to the motherboard(technically in a Mac they call it a logicboard).</p><p>5.) Once the 80GB hard drive is installed, close it up, and get ready to power up by plugging it back in the wall.</p><p>6.) Hold down the letter "C" key on your keyboard, and push the power button on.</p><p>7.) Hold down the letter "C" throughout the entire start-up and do not take your finger off until you see that the OS 9 install screen has come up.(this could take up to three minutes..your finger may get sore).</p><p>8.) Double click on the UTILITIES FOLDER within the menu that pops up.</p><p>9.) Double click on DRIVE SET-UP.</p><p>10.) Select the hard drive that you would like to partition. There should only be one drive BECAUSE WE MUST HAVE TOLD YOU BY NOW TO REMOVE THAT DARN SCSI.</p><p>11.) Choose CUSTOM SET-UP.</p><p>12.) Create 3 patitions. Yes, 3 partitions. Please, trust me. Don't go getting confused on me.(The current 80GB will be wiped clean, but you mention it was useless anyway. Remember this is fresh start time.)</p><p>13.) Highlight the FIRST PARTITION and select type MAC OS STANDARD and size choose at least 10GB.</p><p>14.) Highlight the THIRD PARTITION and select type MAC OS EXTENDED and size at least 10GB.</p><p>15.) Highlight the SECOND PARTITION(the middle one) and select type MAC OS EXTENDED. You won't have to select the size, because it will be the largest remaining portion.</p><p>16.) Click OK in the bottom right of the MENU.</p><p>17.) Click INITIALIZE.</p><p>18.) Wait for this to complete. </p><p>19.) Go to FILE in the top MENU BAR and quit the DRIVE SET-UP.</p><p>20.) You should see 3 hard drives to your right.</p><p>21.) RENAME these partitions by highlighting the UNTILTLED section underneath each drive.</p><p>22.) Name the 1st one "OS 9", the 2nd "OS 10", and the 3rd "SCSI DATA".</p><p>23.) Double click on INSTALL MAC OS, and Install OS 9 onto OS 9. It should install all the updates, but if not. Keep your computer name and user name cosistant. Write them down if needed. You don't want to name it another name on the other drives. After you restart. REMOVE the OS 9 INSTALL CD. </p><p>24.) Your computer should have booted up in OS 9 now.</p><p>25.) Click on the APPLE in the top left and click CONTROL PANELS, then click SOFTWARE UPDATE.</p><p>26.) Get all UPDATES for OS 9(may require several start ups).</p><p>27.) The most curcial are the FIRMWARE and OS 9.2.2 UPDATES.</p><p>28.) Make sure you get these, before moving one to OS X. You may have to go to the APPLE site if they won't come through on SOFTWARE UPDATE.</p><p>29.) INSERT the MAC OS X INSTALL CD in the CD ROM. RESTART, while holding down the "C" key.</p><p>30.) Install OS X on the drive titled OS 10. Remember name the computer the same name you used in OS 9.</p><p>31.) After restart. Click the BLUE APPLE TOP LEFT, click SYSTEM PREFENCES, click SOFTWARE UPDATE...and get all updates. If it restarts in OS 9 then APPLE, CONTROL PANELS, START-UP DISK, SELECT OS 10.</p><p>32,) In SYSTEM PREFENCES, or START-UP DISK(in OS 9), select the start-up disk as "OS 10" hard drive. </p><p>33.) Now, you system should be working good. </p><p>34.) Now, you can hook up the SCSI DRIVE(jumper set to slave) or the 20GB(jumper set to slave) in addition to your new 80GB drive. No, don't mess with you 80GB drive. Leave it in there and alone. Hook up the SCSI just like you had it, but with the jumper set to slave...also the cable off the PCI card might have to be moved to the other location. Usually those PCI cards have two cable connections. Both in use for RAID set-up, or one for master, one for slave.</p><p>35.) You only have to mess with that cable crap if the drive is not recognized in the desktop.</p><p>36.) You don't have to use the "SCSI DATA" partition for the SCSI's data. You can leave the SCSI in and just use it that way, and rename the "SCSI DATA" partition anything you want and use it for anything you want.</p><p>37.) If you choose to use the 20GB as slave connected through the secondary IDE/ATA cable interface. After it is installed. You should be started-up in OS X, select GO, APPLICATIONS, UTILITIES, DISK UTILITY, and SET UP the 20gb as a MAC OS EXTENDED and use it anyway you want.</p><p></p><p>I HOPE THIS HELPS.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="goodolebwinches, post: 10953"] a.) Yes, the SCSI drive has to be set to slave. Even if it is the only SCSI in the chain. This is because your SCSI drive is currently your START-UP(BOOT) DRIVE. Adding other master drive confuses your system more than your situation confuses you and me. b.) Take things slowly. You appear confused and to be going too fast. You've got a drive that works. You don't know how well your upgrades will work out. Don't mess up and fudge the information on your SCSI drive. Keep that information safe. You will need this drive, because it works. Please trust me. Do not reformat this drive any time soon. If all fails you can always return to this SCSI drive to make your system work. c.) Screw that ZIP DISK crap. You don't need that garbage, and it is only adding to your confusion in this situation. All the utilities you need are on the OS X install CD. d.) Please sit that ZIP DISK and your SCSI DRIVE aside for now. They aren't going anywhere and the data from the drive can always be added later to your new drive at any time. e.) Remove that SCSI DRIVE completely and sit it aside. REPEAT....REMOVE THAT SCSI DRIVE AND SET IT ASIDE...AND WHILE YOU'RE AT IT SIT THAT **** ZIP DISK DOWN. f.) I was there in Estill Springs, Tennessee circa: 1987. I saw him on that freezer, it was real, trust me. g.) Forget the 20GB hard drive for now. It, like the SCSI, can always be added later. YOU HAVE AN OS 9 INSTALL CD(you never mentioned this before...this is important stuff), YOU HAVE AN OS X INSTALL CD(so I believe), YOU HAVE AN NEW 80GB HARD DRIVE. IF THIS IS ALL CORRECT THEN PLEASE SET ASIDE 2 HOURS AND FOLLOW THESE INSTRUCTIONS: 1.) Insert the OS 9 INSTALL CD in the CD DRIVE. REPEAT OS 9 CD. 2.) Now, SHUT DOWN the system, and un-plug it. 3.) Remove the SCSI drive completely now. 4.) Install the 80GB hard drive with jumpers set to master...and do not run it through the PCI card. Use the ATA/IDE cable that connects to the motherboard(technically in a Mac they call it a logicboard). 5.) Once the 80GB hard drive is installed, close it up, and get ready to power up by plugging it back in the wall. 6.) Hold down the letter "C" key on your keyboard, and push the power button on. 7.) Hold down the letter "C" throughout the entire start-up and do not take your finger off until you see that the OS 9 install screen has come up.(this could take up to three minutes..your finger may get sore). 8.) Double click on the UTILITIES FOLDER within the menu that pops up. 9.) Double click on DRIVE SET-UP. 10.) Select the hard drive that you would like to partition. There should only be one drive BECAUSE WE MUST HAVE TOLD YOU BY NOW TO REMOVE THAT DARN SCSI. 11.) Choose CUSTOM SET-UP. 12.) Create 3 patitions. Yes, 3 partitions. Please, trust me. Don't go getting confused on me.(The current 80GB will be wiped clean, but you mention it was useless anyway. Remember this is fresh start time.) 13.) Highlight the FIRST PARTITION and select type MAC OS STANDARD and size choose at least 10GB. 14.) Highlight the THIRD PARTITION and select type MAC OS EXTENDED and size at least 10GB. 15.) Highlight the SECOND PARTITION(the middle one) and select type MAC OS EXTENDED. You won't have to select the size, because it will be the largest remaining portion. 16.) Click OK in the bottom right of the MENU. 17.) Click INITIALIZE. 18.) Wait for this to complete. 19.) Go to FILE in the top MENU BAR and quit the DRIVE SET-UP. 20.) You should see 3 hard drives to your right. 21.) RENAME these partitions by highlighting the UNTILTLED section underneath each drive. 22.) Name the 1st one "OS 9", the 2nd "OS 10", and the 3rd "SCSI DATA". 23.) Double click on INSTALL MAC OS, and Install OS 9 onto OS 9. It should install all the updates, but if not. Keep your computer name and user name cosistant. Write them down if needed. You don't want to name it another name on the other drives. After you restart. REMOVE the OS 9 INSTALL CD. 24.) Your computer should have booted up in OS 9 now. 25.) Click on the APPLE in the top left and click CONTROL PANELS, then click SOFTWARE UPDATE. 26.) Get all UPDATES for OS 9(may require several start ups). 27.) The most curcial are the FIRMWARE and OS 9.2.2 UPDATES. 28.) Make sure you get these, before moving one to OS X. You may have to go to the APPLE site if they won't come through on SOFTWARE UPDATE. 29.) INSERT the MAC OS X INSTALL CD in the CD ROM. RESTART, while holding down the "C" key. 30.) Install OS X on the drive titled OS 10. Remember name the computer the same name you used in OS 9. 31.) After restart. Click the BLUE APPLE TOP LEFT, click SYSTEM PREFENCES, click SOFTWARE UPDATE...and get all updates. If it restarts in OS 9 then APPLE, CONTROL PANELS, START-UP DISK, SELECT OS 10. 32,) In SYSTEM PREFENCES, or START-UP DISK(in OS 9), select the start-up disk as "OS 10" hard drive. 33.) Now, you system should be working good. 34.) Now, you can hook up the SCSI DRIVE(jumper set to slave) or the 20GB(jumper set to slave) in addition to your new 80GB drive. No, don't mess with you 80GB drive. Leave it in there and alone. Hook up the SCSI just like you had it, but with the jumper set to slave...also the cable off the PCI card might have to be moved to the other location. Usually those PCI cards have two cable connections. Both in use for RAID set-up, or one for master, one for slave. 35.) You only have to mess with that cable crap if the drive is not recognized in the desktop. 36.) You don't have to use the "SCSI DATA" partition for the SCSI's data. You can leave the SCSI in and just use it that way, and rename the "SCSI DATA" partition anything you want and use it for anything you want. 37.) If you choose to use the 20GB as slave connected through the secondary IDE/ATA cable interface. After it is installed. You should be started-up in OS X, select GO, APPLICATIONS, UTILITIES, DISK UTILITY, and SET UP the 20gb as a MAC OS EXTENDED and use it anyway you want. I HOPE THIS HELPS. [/QUOTE]
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