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<blockquote data-quote="Graeme43" data-source="post: 38875" data-attributes="member: 1904"><p>From <a href="mailto:XXXX@apple.com">XXXX@apple.com</a> Tue Jun 29 21:16:50 2004 </p><p>Return-Path: <XXXX@apple.com> </p><p>Received: from mail-out3.apple.com (mail-out3.apple.com [17.254.13.22]) </p><p>by seti.tchile.com (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5U0c5CZ012168 </p><p>for <XXXX@spoon.cl>; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 20:38:06 -0400 </p><p>Received: from mailgate1.apple.com (a17-128-100-225.apple.com [17.128.100.225]) </p><p>by mail-out3.apple.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5U0ogDA025906 </p><p>for <XXXX@spoon.cl>; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:50:42 -0700 (PDT) </p><p>Received: from relay3.apple.com (relay3.apple.com) by mailgate1.apple.com </p><p>(Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.12) with ESMTP id <T6a7df04369118064e1398@mailgate1.apple.com> for <XXXX@spoon.cl>; </p><p>Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:50:31 -0700 </p><p>Received: from parks.apple.com (parks.apple.com [17.248.2.22]) </p><p>by relay3.apple.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5U0oT6D017057 </p><p>for <XXXX@spoon.cl>; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:50:29 -0700 (PDT) </p><p>Received: from [17.248.4.64] (wave1.apple.com [17.248.4.64]) </p><p>by earhart.apple.com </p><p>(iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.08 (built Dec 6 2002)) </p><p>with ESMTP id <0I030080AJO59V@earhart.apple.com> for <a href="mailto:XXXX@spoon.cl">XXXX@spoon.cl</a>; Tue, </p><p>29 Jun 2004 17:50:29 -0700 (PDT) </p><p>Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:50:29 -0700 </p><p>From: Steve Jobs <XXXX@apple.com> </p><p>Subject: Re: Shame on you, Apple! </p><p>In-reply-to: <1AC184E0-CA2D-11D8-8B67-000A959096C8@spoon.cl> </p><p>To: "l. prieto" <XXXX@spoon.cl> </p><p>Message-id: <7B87851B-CA2F-11D8-8364-000A95AF9944@apple.com> </p><p>MIME-version: 1.0 </p><p>X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) </p><p>Content-type: multipart/alternative; </p><p>boundary="Boundary_(ID_uCjIp7xEBfJo+BBccOaylw)" </p><p>References: <1AC184E0-CA2D-11D8-8B67-000A959096C8@spoon.cl> </p><p>Status: </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>--Boundary_(ID_uCjIp7xEBfJo+BBccOaylw) </p><p>Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed </p><p>Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT </p><p></p><p>Excuse me, but Mac OS 9 had desktop Widgets long before Konfabulator </p><p>did. Apple was the first to use the term Widgets as well. We never </p><p>complained when the Konfabulator guys "ripped off Apple" and I think </p><p>its a bit unfair for them to be claiming we ripped them off now. </p><p></p><p>Steve </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>On Jun 29, 2004, at 5:33 PM, XXX wrote: </p><p></p><p>Apple, </p><p>You said it yourself: </p><p></p><p>STEALING IS BAD KARMA! </p><p></p><p>If Dashboard isn't a rip-off of Konfabulator then what is? I don't care </p><p>that much about Sherlock/Watson as both are equally useless to me, but </p><p>this it too much. </p><p></p><p>And what Phil said is embarrasing: </p><p>In response Apple senior vice president Phil Schiller told CNET: "The </p><p>goal of Dashboard isn't to be like anything else. It's not his stuff. </p><p>What we've done is ours." </p><p></p><p>Of course, you did it from the ground up. But it's stealing directly </p><p>from Arlo Rose's Konfabulator. Arlo Rose is a very famous Mac </p><p>developer. You should just buy the thing from him! </p><p></p><p>Remember, it's GOOD KARMA! </p><p></p><p>I'm a huge Mac fan and have been for the past 15 years, and I believe </p><p>this is the first time I'm so angry at Apple. </p><p></p><p>And I know I'm not the only one. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Graeme43, post: 38875, member: 1904"] From [email]XXXX@apple.com[/email] Tue Jun 29 21:16:50 2004 Return-Path: <XXXX@apple.com> Received: from mail-out3.apple.com (mail-out3.apple.com [17.254.13.22]) by seti.tchile.com (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5U0c5CZ012168 for <XXXX@spoon.cl>; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 20:38:06 -0400 Received: from mailgate1.apple.com (a17-128-100-225.apple.com [17.128.100.225]) by mail-out3.apple.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5U0ogDA025906 for <XXXX@spoon.cl>; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:50:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay3.apple.com (relay3.apple.com) by mailgate1.apple.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.12) with ESMTP id <T6a7df04369118064e1398@mailgate1.apple.com> for <XXXX@spoon.cl>; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:50:31 -0700 Received: from parks.apple.com (parks.apple.com [17.248.2.22]) by relay3.apple.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5U0oT6D017057 for <XXXX@spoon.cl>; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:50:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.248.4.64] (wave1.apple.com [17.248.4.64]) by earhart.apple.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.08 (built Dec 6 2002)) with ESMTP id <0I030080AJO59V@earhart.apple.com> for [email]XXXX@spoon.cl[/email]; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:50:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:50:29 -0700 From: Steve Jobs <XXXX@apple.com> Subject: Re: Shame on you, Apple! In-reply-to: <1AC184E0-CA2D-11D8-8B67-000A959096C8@spoon.cl> To: "l. prieto" <XXXX@spoon.cl> Message-id: <7B87851B-CA2F-11D8-8364-000A95AF9944@apple.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_uCjIp7xEBfJo+BBccOaylw)" References: <1AC184E0-CA2D-11D8-8B67-000A959096C8@spoon.cl> Status: --Boundary_(ID_uCjIp7xEBfJo+BBccOaylw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Excuse me, but Mac OS 9 had desktop Widgets long before Konfabulator did. Apple was the first to use the term Widgets as well. We never complained when the Konfabulator guys "ripped off Apple" and I think its a bit unfair for them to be claiming we ripped them off now. Steve On Jun 29, 2004, at 5:33 PM, XXX wrote: Apple, You said it yourself: STEALING IS BAD KARMA! If Dashboard isn't a rip-off of Konfabulator then what is? I don't care that much about Sherlock/Watson as both are equally useless to me, but this it too much. And what Phil said is embarrasing: In response Apple senior vice president Phil Schiller told CNET: "The goal of Dashboard isn't to be like anything else. It's not his stuff. What we've done is ours." Of course, you did it from the ground up. But it's stealing directly from Arlo Rose's Konfabulator. Arlo Rose is a very famous Mac developer. You should just buy the thing from him! Remember, it's GOOD KARMA! I'm a huge Mac fan and have been for the past 15 years, and I believe this is the first time I'm so angry at Apple. And I know I'm not the only one. :D:D:D:D [/QUOTE]
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