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<blockquote data-quote="pigoo3" data-source="post: 1764586" data-attributes="member: 56379">There's at least one refurbished 2015 MacBook Pro model on the US Apple store site.&nbsp; And member badshoehabit found one on the Apple UK site.&nbsp; Refurbished inventory can change quickly (hourly or daily)...since there may not be many available (may only be one).FYI...there are 2016 13&quot; MacBook Pro models without the &quot;gimmicky rouchbar&quot;!<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp; But if you're looking for a 15&quot; MacBook Pro...then yes...all 2016 models have a touchbar.Sure he can.&nbsp; &quot;Buy low...sell high.&quot;&nbsp; He certainly isn't losing money selling these computers.&nbsp; Otherwise he'd be out of business VERY quickly!Not possible.&nbsp; MacBook Pro's haven't had a hard disk drive's in years. &nbsp;But this really isn't important.&nbsp; Purchase a refurbished computer from Apple.&nbsp; And you get a full 12 months of warranty (just like new computers)...with the option to purchase the extended 3 year warranty.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> - Nick</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pigoo3, post: 1764586, member: 56379"] There's at least one refurbished 2015 MacBook Pro model on the US Apple store site. And member badshoehabit found one on the Apple UK site. Refurbished inventory can change quickly (hourly or daily)...since there may not be many available (may only be one). FYI...there are 2016 13" MacBook Pro models without the "gimmicky rouchbar"!;) But if you're looking for a 15" MacBook Pro...then yes...all 2016 models have a touchbar. Sure he can. "Buy low...sell high." He certainly isn't losing money selling these computers. Otherwise he'd be out of business VERY quickly! Not possible. MacBook Pro's haven't had a hard disk drive's in years. But this really isn't important. Purchase a refurbished computer from Apple. And you get a full 12 months of warranty (just like new computers)...with the option to purchase the extended 3 year warranty.:) - Nick [/QUOTE]

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