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<blockquote data-quote="MacInWin" data-source="post: 1901199" data-attributes="member: 396914"><p>I have both. Bombich has basically thrown in the towel on bootable backups. And that's ok, given that the new Apple Silicon makes booting from an external drive a lot harder and if the internal storage has failed, impossible. But CCC still clones your data and the things you control, so it is still useful. </p><p></p><p>SD! does make bootable backups, but I keep running into a quirk. Basically, it does the backup then fails at the end with an error message that it could not run "bless" to make the drive bootable. Don't worry about what "bless" does, just accept that it's a utility to mark a drive as bootable. Anyway, I opened a ticket with Shirt Pocket and got into a mail dialog with Dave Nanian, the developer. He suggested I try booting from it anyway. And it worked! So, even with the "error" message, it does make bootable externals. </p><p></p><p>However, there are two other quirks about it. First, when it finished and I looked at the destination drive with Finder, nothing of mine was there. The system was there, but /Users was empty. Dave said that the Data Volume wasn't mounted, so I opened Disk Utility and sure enough, Data was NOT mounted. I mounted it and all of my stuff appeared. So that's the first quirk, you may need to mount the Data Volume manually. Later on, after a couple of reboots, both Volumes mounted normally. Strange behavior. </p><p></p><p>The second quirk is that the way M1/Monterey works is that only ONE drive can be approved as the "boot" drive. So, in booting from the external drive, the system shifted the boot drive to that drive. The complication is that by doing so, all my information in Wallet was deleted as part of the security. Wallet only allows one disk to have the data on it! Also, to get the machine to properly boot from the internal again, one has to go into System Preferences while booted from the External, and use "Startup Disk" to make the internal storage the boot system again. If you don't do that, it won't boot from the internal. If the external isn't attached and you have not set the internal as boot, it should go into Recovery, where you have to use System Preferences to make the internal the boot system. Unlike in the "good ol' days," security has been significantly strengthened to prevent unauthorized access to your data. </p><p></p><p>It still remains that although it is possible to make a bootable clone, the actual value of one, in an Apple Silicon environment, is pretty low for the average user.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MacInWin, post: 1901199, member: 396914"] I have both. Bombich has basically thrown in the towel on bootable backups. And that's ok, given that the new Apple Silicon makes booting from an external drive a lot harder and if the internal storage has failed, impossible. But CCC still clones your data and the things you control, so it is still useful. SD! does make bootable backups, but I keep running into a quirk. Basically, it does the backup then fails at the end with an error message that it could not run "bless" to make the drive bootable. Don't worry about what "bless" does, just accept that it's a utility to mark a drive as bootable. Anyway, I opened a ticket with Shirt Pocket and got into a mail dialog with Dave Nanian, the developer. He suggested I try booting from it anyway. And it worked! So, even with the "error" message, it does make bootable externals. However, there are two other quirks about it. First, when it finished and I looked at the destination drive with Finder, nothing of mine was there. The system was there, but /Users was empty. Dave said that the Data Volume wasn't mounted, so I opened Disk Utility and sure enough, Data was NOT mounted. I mounted it and all of my stuff appeared. So that's the first quirk, you may need to mount the Data Volume manually. Later on, after a couple of reboots, both Volumes mounted normally. Strange behavior. The second quirk is that the way M1/Monterey works is that only ONE drive can be approved as the "boot" drive. So, in booting from the external drive, the system shifted the boot drive to that drive. The complication is that by doing so, all my information in Wallet was deleted as part of the security. Wallet only allows one disk to have the data on it! Also, to get the machine to properly boot from the internal again, one has to go into System Preferences while booted from the External, and use "Startup Disk" to make the internal storage the boot system again. If you don't do that, it won't boot from the internal. If the external isn't attached and you have not set the internal as boot, it should go into Recovery, where you have to use System Preferences to make the internal the boot system. Unlike in the "good ol' days," security has been significantly strengthened to prevent unauthorized access to your data. It still remains that although it is possible to make a bootable clone, the actual value of one, in an Apple Silicon environment, is pretty low for the average user. [/QUOTE]
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