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<blockquote data-quote="ManoaHi" data-source="post: 1626327" data-attributes="member: 264133"><p><strong>Reply to Questions, A Few More</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>A. I've implemented the SSD into the data connection located in the second (empty) DVD-drive bay of the MacPro. Is this slower or the same as inserting where all the other HDD drive bays are?</strong></p><p>This depends, location doesn't matter as much as connection. I don't remember the Pro's internal configurations. I feel the need to ask if you have two empty drive bays? I think you do and the two 1 TB HDDs are on sleds, which makes them cable free as they connect into the connectors in the bays. The bays contain the power and the data connections so if you have the sled they will plug into the SATA connectors. Unless you got a full-sized SSD, you need an adapter sled. While, I believe the optical bays have an SATA connector. Ideally you want your disks on different controllers and the only way to tell is to learn how to read the Apple-->About This Mac-->System Info. Unless I can see that and even if you post it, it will be useful. I'm going to assume they are on different controllers. This is ideal. If they are not, no great loss. </p><p></p><p><strong>Is the assumption in #4 true? Will CCC do a backup from the Secondary to the Backup without my actually being in it. What if I am using the SSD while the scheduled backup time comes up (it's scheduled to do this in a few hours so I guess I'll find out what happens the hard way.</strong></p><p>Sorry, I don't know how CCC behaves when files are open, since it' backup is block by block, where as most backup is file by file. Normal backups skip open files. Still CCC is probably the best backup system. I only use it once in a while, just prior to upgrading the OS. Like just prior to going from 10.10.0 to 10.10.1. I make sure I can boot from that clone. All other backups are TimeMachine. A CCC/Time Machine combo is likely the absolute best at this time.</p><p></p><p><strong>What I was trying to avoid via putting a single partition with the SSD + (now) Secondary HD</strong></p><p>Oh God, I hope you don't/didn't try this. It requires a lot of prep. Re-partitioning your disks will necessarily require erasing the disks. If you're not really careful in your backups, you might lose data. </p><p></p><p><strong>I would like to transition to using Lightroom via the SSD instead. However, I'm not familiar with how to implement this properly yet within Lightroom. It seems as if I will have to manually move files from Lightroom on the SSD into Lightroom on the Secondary, but I am not sure. I cherish my photos immensely so I want to be sure I don't inadvertently lose files while working across the different disks.</strong></p><p>I don't know how Lightroom keeps track of the data (photos). I'd suggest contacting Adobe and find out how to migrate the program but not the data. Some programs keep their "database" hidden and if so, there is a lot of meta data that you can't really see or understand and that can be a daunting task. Adobe should, 1 either be able to tell you since migrating to new machine is normal, and 2. Adobe's forum to find out from other users.</p><p></p><p><strong>To make things more practical, I've erased using Apple Mail on the Secondary and now kept it only on the Primary SSD. This takes up a lot of space, however, so I will need to Archive, etc. Same with Calendar, it's too confusing and too much downloading and syncing going on.</strong></p><p>Um, not quite sure what you're saying. Apple Mail is on iCloud, it's not "in" your Mac. Are you referring to "backups" by exporting mail (I'd suggest doing that if you have important mails)? Apple Mail is, however, taking up your iCloud space, so you could run out of your free 5GB of iCloud. I saw this on the original post, but I didn't address it then. You can put the exported files wherever you like, you get to choose when you select a folder to export, just be sure to check the box about subfolders.</p><p></p><p><strong>Similar issues with other apps...</strong></p><p>Contact the vendor. For iTunes have a look at <a href="http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT1391" target="_blank">Locate and organize your iTunes files - Apple Support</a></p><p></p><p><strong>I was hoping to use Windows and these apps via a dual-boot partition on the SSD as well, but it seems I won't have enough space and things seem convoluted enough already.</strong></p><p>If you're concerned about performance, don't overload your SSD. What is your current RAM capacity and configuration? If you don't have enough RAM. the OS will create swap files on your boot disk in this case the SSD. It can even get to the total slug speeds as it swaps out/in smaller sections. You actually don't have much disk space to do everything you need/want to do. Do you have a lot of external disk space?</p><p></p><p>I have loads of disk space. I have a MacBook Air, my son has a MacBook Pro. The women, wife and daugther prefer Windows, but Window 8 had TimeMachine like capabilities, yet they don't take backups, which irritates me. My son is pretty diligent in backing up his iPhone and iPad as well as his Mac. I have about 14TB disk connected to my Mac, albeit majority TimeMachine. More if you include NAS. No such thing as too much disk space.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ManoaHi, post: 1626327, member: 264133"] [b]Reply to Questions, A Few More[/b] [B]A. I've implemented the SSD into the data connection located in the second (empty) DVD-drive bay of the MacPro. Is this slower or the same as inserting where all the other HDD drive bays are?[/B] This depends, location doesn't matter as much as connection. I don't remember the Pro's internal configurations. I feel the need to ask if you have two empty drive bays? I think you do and the two 1 TB HDDs are on sleds, which makes them cable free as they connect into the connectors in the bays. The bays contain the power and the data connections so if you have the sled they will plug into the SATA connectors. Unless you got a full-sized SSD, you need an adapter sled. While, I believe the optical bays have an SATA connector. Ideally you want your disks on different controllers and the only way to tell is to learn how to read the Apple-->About This Mac-->System Info. Unless I can see that and even if you post it, it will be useful. I'm going to assume they are on different controllers. This is ideal. If they are not, no great loss. [B]Is the assumption in #4 true? Will CCC do a backup from the Secondary to the Backup without my actually being in it. What if I am using the SSD while the scheduled backup time comes up (it's scheduled to do this in a few hours so I guess I'll find out what happens the hard way.[/B] Sorry, I don't know how CCC behaves when files are open, since it' backup is block by block, where as most backup is file by file. Normal backups skip open files. Still CCC is probably the best backup system. I only use it once in a while, just prior to upgrading the OS. Like just prior to going from 10.10.0 to 10.10.1. I make sure I can boot from that clone. All other backups are TimeMachine. A CCC/Time Machine combo is likely the absolute best at this time. [B]What I was trying to avoid via putting a single partition with the SSD + (now) Secondary HD[/B] Oh God, I hope you don't/didn't try this. It requires a lot of prep. Re-partitioning your disks will necessarily require erasing the disks. If you're not really careful in your backups, you might lose data. [B]I would like to transition to using Lightroom via the SSD instead. However, I'm not familiar with how to implement this properly yet within Lightroom. It seems as if I will have to manually move files from Lightroom on the SSD into Lightroom on the Secondary, but I am not sure. I cherish my photos immensely so I want to be sure I don't inadvertently lose files while working across the different disks.[/B] I don't know how Lightroom keeps track of the data (photos). I'd suggest contacting Adobe and find out how to migrate the program but not the data. Some programs keep their "database" hidden and if so, there is a lot of meta data that you can't really see or understand and that can be a daunting task. Adobe should, 1 either be able to tell you since migrating to new machine is normal, and 2. Adobe's forum to find out from other users. [B]To make things more practical, I've erased using Apple Mail on the Secondary and now kept it only on the Primary SSD. This takes up a lot of space, however, so I will need to Archive, etc. Same with Calendar, it's too confusing and too much downloading and syncing going on.[/B] Um, not quite sure what you're saying. Apple Mail is on iCloud, it's not "in" your Mac. Are you referring to "backups" by exporting mail (I'd suggest doing that if you have important mails)? Apple Mail is, however, taking up your iCloud space, so you could run out of your free 5GB of iCloud. I saw this on the original post, but I didn't address it then. You can put the exported files wherever you like, you get to choose when you select a folder to export, just be sure to check the box about subfolders. [B]Similar issues with other apps...[/B] Contact the vendor. For iTunes have a look at [url=http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT1391]Locate and organize your iTunes files - Apple Support[/url] [B]I was hoping to use Windows and these apps via a dual-boot partition on the SSD as well, but it seems I won't have enough space and things seem convoluted enough already.[/B] If you're concerned about performance, don't overload your SSD. What is your current RAM capacity and configuration? If you don't have enough RAM. the OS will create swap files on your boot disk in this case the SSD. It can even get to the total slug speeds as it swaps out/in smaller sections. You actually don't have much disk space to do everything you need/want to do. Do you have a lot of external disk space? I have loads of disk space. I have a MacBook Air, my son has a MacBook Pro. The women, wife and daugther prefer Windows, but Window 8 had TimeMachine like capabilities, yet they don't take backups, which irritates me. My son is pretty diligent in backing up his iPhone and iPad as well as his Mac. I have about 14TB disk connected to my Mac, albeit majority TimeMachine. More if you include NAS. No such thing as too much disk space. [/QUOTE]
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