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I keep getting spam in Apple Mail from different sources. It likely is actually coming from the same source but each incoming from address is different. I mark each item as spam using SpamSieve and I guess that blocks it should I ever see mail from that source but I'll get a dozen emails a day each with a different from line. Is there anything that can be done about this? I've come up empty in my research.

I have several email addresses but it spam is only hitting the one address.
 
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Nope. Spam is spam and pretty much unblockable. You have Spam Sieve, which a lot of folks like and think is the best, so you really don't have much else you can do. Can you abandon the one address and then just stop using it?
 
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Can you abandon the one address and then just stop using it?

It is my primary address, which may be why I'm getting so much crap. I hesitate to think what might happen if I tried to change it.
 
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I hesitate to think what might happen if I tried to change it.


If you want to try attempting to control such spam you might want to consider becoming a member of SpamCop and use their system for reporting such spam:


SpamCop is an email spam reporting service, allowing recipients of unsolicited bulk or commercial email to report IP addresses found by SpamCop's analysis to be senders of the spam to the abuse reporting addresses of those IP addresses. Wikipedia



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I use Apple Mail "RULES". Mail-Settings-Rules. Note the spelling. You can use "Wild Cards" also in the address.
I get a LOT from gmail, you would think that Google would put a stop to these SPAMMERS. Screenshot 2024-06-09 at 10.29.47 PM.jpg
 
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I keep getting spam in Apple Mail from different sources. It likely is actually coming from the same source but each incoming from address is different. I mark each item as spam using SpamSieve and I guess that blocks it should I ever see mail from that source but I'll get a dozen emails a day each with a different from line. Is there anything that can be done about this? I've come up empty in my research.

SpamSieve uses FAR MORE than just the sender's address to filter out incoming spam. SpamSieve is over 99% effective for most of the folks that I'm in touch with who use it. (I'm currently at a reported 99.6% effectiveness on my main Macintosh computer.)

If SpamSieve isn't working for you it is because your installation of SpamSieve has become damaged. See:

Why is SpamSieve not catching my spam?
https://c-command.com/spamsieve/manual#why-is-spamsieve-not-ca

You can contact technical support at:

E-Mail: [email protected]

In my experience, C-Command Software is extremely good at helping users with problems. Before contacting them, you should read :

What information should I include when I report a problem?
https://c-command.com/spamsieve/manual#what-information-should
 
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I keep getting spam in Apple Mail from different sources. It likely is actually coming from the same source but each incoming from address is different. I mark each item as spam using SpamSieve and I guess that blocks it should I ever see mail from that source but I'll get a dozen emails a day each with a different from line.

Let me explain how SpamSieve works, so there is no confusion.

When you first install SpamSieve you train it by showing it examples of lots of typical e-mail messages you have received from legitimate sources, and lots of typical spam messages you have received from spam sources.

SpamSieve looks at EVERY SINGLE word in an e-mail message and ranks it for how commonly that word shows up in spam that you have received in the past. Words, like the address of a friend who appears in your address book, are given a very high score for being legitimate. Words that commonly appear only in spam messages are given a very high score for being spam.

In a short period of time, SpamSieve has ranked many thousands of words. Once SpamSieve has ranked all of those words, it can analyze incoming e-mail messages word by word and use artificial intelligence to figure out the probability that a message is spam. This AI is shockingly accurate when SpamSieve is working properly.

However, you must install, train, and maintain SpamSieve precisely as its instructions dictate. This isn't at all hard to do, but if you fail to do it properly SpamSieve won't work well for you. Fortunately, C-Command is excellent at assisting you with this if you need them.
 
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It is my primary address, which may be why I'm getting so much crap. I hesitate to think what might happen if I tried to change it.
What I did many years ago, was to send family and friends a new gmail address. Then using that for family friends, I kept using my other email address for logins, newsletters and other internet sign in sites.
 
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If SpamSieve isn't working for you it is because your installation of SpamSieve has become damaged.

SpamSieve is great. the problem is I will get one spam message from [email protected], which I mark as spam. Then I get one from [email protected] and I spam it and so on. the problem is a.com and b.com are the same source as near as I can tell and there is no way to spam the source.
 
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I'm surprised your email provider doesn't have a setting for spam?
 
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I'm surprised your email provider doesn't have a setting for spam


+1. Certainly, something for the OP to check out, and sometimes the obvious basic easy solution is overlooked. 😉



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My email provider does have a spam filter but I prefer to let everything thru and pick it up in SpamSieve. That way I can be sure of what is getting spammed.
 
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SpamSieve is great. the problem is I will get one spam message from [email protected], which I mark as spam. Then I get one from [email protected] and I spam it and so on. the problem is a.com and b.com are the same source as near as I can tell and there is no way to spam the source.

Read back in the thread. As I explained, SpamSieve isn't fooled by one spammer who uses different sender e-mail addresses, because the sender e-mail address isn't, by far, the only thing that SpamSieve looks at to determine if an incoming message is spam.

You have a copy of SpamSieve that has become damaged. You either need to troubleshoot it using the links that I gave you previously, or you need to contact C-Command for assistance. Once you have fixed the damage to SpamSieve, your spam problem will be a thing of the past.
 
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Read back in the thread. As I explained, SpamSieve isn't fooled by one spammer who uses different sender e-mail addresses, because the sender e-mail address isn't, by far, the only thing that SpamSieve looks at to determine if an incoming message is spam.

The content is different. When the content is the same or close to the same it seems to get spammed. This is a never-ending stream of different stuff from different people. From reading back in the thread it appears there is nothing I can really do until most or all of the uniqueness has gone away.
 
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The content is different. When the content is the same or close to the same it seems to get spammed. This is a never-ending stream of different stuff from different people. From reading back in the thread it appears there is nothing I can really do until most or all of the uniqueness has gone away.

SpamSieve can't be fooled by that either, unless your spammer is inventing new words that have never been used before by human beings.

I, personally, have been spammed countless times by spammers using different sender e-mail addresses, and SpamSieve has never been fooled by this.

I implore you to do the troubleshooting steps outlined in the links that I gave you, or to call C-Command and ask them for assistance. I guaranty you that one or the other will lead to your copy of SpamSieve being repaired and your spam problems being solved.

If you just throw up your arms and say "it can't be fixed"...then it won't be.
 
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This is a never-ending stream of different stuff from different people. From reading back in the thread it appears there is nothing I can really do until most or all of the uniqueness has gone away.

@ rbpeirce
To solve your current SPAM problem, I would strongly suggest you heed and methodically follow the suggestions offered by Randy and get rid of the problem.

And I would suggest allowing your ISP's spam filtering to aid you with your problem and I am sure they're software has much more power than anything you have available to help you at your end by comparison.


And Apple's Mail Rurles can be very powerful and sorting and dealing with Spam in my experience. But it might take some care and attention to detail to get it to work properly or just more efficiently.

Just don't throw up your arms and give up in despair.



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I think I've got it working. It seems everything was getting spammed properly except for the stuff coded blue, which is supposed to be the most spammy. It turns out there is a "Move it to the Trash if the spam score is at least ___." It turns out this was set to 99, which would seem to be pretty inclusive. I set it to 100 and all the blue stuff suddenly went to Junk. I guess Blue is 99 and so it was going to Trash instead of to Junk. The wording in the instructions was unclear until I figured it out. I was confusing Trash with Junk! Then it seemed pretty obvious.
 

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I wholeheartedly agree, wording can take you down a wormhole of confusion if you don't understand what a certain term means to a specific entity. Worst of all meaning can vary dependent on individual developers, sources, users, ect.
 

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