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<blockquote data-quote="Discerptor" data-source="post: 1349404" data-attributes="member: 12177"><p>Funny, I remember referring precisely to Photoshop and InDesign when discussing the shortcomings of Mission Control. There are a number of applications that either don't support tabs or are best used with multiple windows, and these don't lend themselves well to Mission Control.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I only referenced its unsuitable performance on machines with 2GB of RAM, which is bad specifically since Apple still ships machines with 2GB of RAM. Adding more is necessary for even light multitasking, and you have more than that. You're actually supporting my assertion.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If you're boasting about 720p playback and having trouble with Google Earth, your standards are about 6 years behind the curve. I wouldn't take this as a positive for Lion.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I never said Lion was unsuitable for power users. I said it was unsuitable for people that do heavy multitasking and that it required more RAM than Snow Leopard did to perform acceptably. There is a marked difference. I suppose I could have been more specific and thrown in the implied "It's unsuitable for people with workflows that actually leveraged Exposé," but I thought my heavy focus on what a poor replacement Mission Control is covered that.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What do you call FUD when it's about a group of people the poster is trying to feel superior to? I never had any such "new feature" complaints about Snow Leopard, and I don't know anyone that did. My only complaint about Snow Leopard from the start was that Apple was charging for something that should have been a free upgrade to the bloated Leopard. I might have been a bit annoyed about PowerPC support being dropped too, but it wasn't a big deal for me at that point anyway since I had traded up. The main issue with Lion isn't a compatibility chart or shiny gimmicks - it's the removal of useful features, which is a first for OS X. The resource inefficiency and bugs that persist two major updates later are an added bonus.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Accusing all criticism of Apple as the work of Luddites is rather closed-minded. I'm open to Exposé being enhanced or even replaced with something better - I just didn't want it replaced with something that has <em>less</em> functionality and requires <em>more</em> clicks and swipes to do the things it can do.</p><p></p><p>I'm open to new takes on the fullscreen idea that get around it "covering up" a bunch of windows - I didn't want multi-monitor fullscreen support to be killed off in the process.</p><p></p><p>The iMovie '08 "revolt" was justified even by Apple's tacit admission, since they made iMovie 6 HD available as a free download until all the features they had removed were put back into later versions of iMovie. The Final Cut Pro X "revolt" happening right now is even more justified, since Apple is essentially forcing professional video editors to go through the costly process of switching to another software solution.</p><p></p><p>Apple's products are not exempt from criticism just because some of their actions push the industry forward. Spotlight doesn't justify Apple having the gall to charge people for .mac/MobileMe as an example. To close your eyes to all faults in their products and services is tantamount to encouraging Apple to not change and improve them, which would be terrible. I'm not asking for Exposé back: I just want Mission Control, and indeed Lion itself, to be molded into worthy successors.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As harsh as I may seem with my criticisms of Lion, I would never compare Lion to Windows Millennium Edition. For all its faults, OS X Lion is still better at window management than Windows 7 by a huge margin. And even though there are some bugs in a few of Lion's bundled apps, Windows doesn't even come with bundled programs that I deem acceptable to use over any alternatives to begin with. And if Apple continues as it's been doing for the last two OS X releases, 10.8 will probably only be $29 when it comes out anyway. Trust me: most of the criticisms of Lion I've made in this thread wouldn't be there if I were coming in brand new without any prior OS X experience. I just hold Apple to a higher standard than I do Microsoft because I know from experience that they can do better than this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Discerptor, post: 1349404, member: 12177"] Funny, I remember referring precisely to Photoshop and InDesign when discussing the shortcomings of Mission Control. There are a number of applications that either don't support tabs or are best used with multiple windows, and these don't lend themselves well to Mission Control. I only referenced its unsuitable performance on machines with 2GB of RAM, which is bad specifically since Apple still ships machines with 2GB of RAM. Adding more is necessary for even light multitasking, and you have more than that. You're actually supporting my assertion. If you're boasting about 720p playback and having trouble with Google Earth, your standards are about 6 years behind the curve. I wouldn't take this as a positive for Lion. I never said Lion was unsuitable for power users. I said it was unsuitable for people that do heavy multitasking and that it required more RAM than Snow Leopard did to perform acceptably. There is a marked difference. I suppose I could have been more specific and thrown in the implied "It's unsuitable for people with workflows that actually leveraged Exposé," but I thought my heavy focus on what a poor replacement Mission Control is covered that. What do you call FUD when it's about a group of people the poster is trying to feel superior to? I never had any such "new feature" complaints about Snow Leopard, and I don't know anyone that did. My only complaint about Snow Leopard from the start was that Apple was charging for something that should have been a free upgrade to the bloated Leopard. I might have been a bit annoyed about PowerPC support being dropped too, but it wasn't a big deal for me at that point anyway since I had traded up. The main issue with Lion isn't a compatibility chart or shiny gimmicks - it's the removal of useful features, which is a first for OS X. The resource inefficiency and bugs that persist two major updates later are an added bonus. Accusing all criticism of Apple as the work of Luddites is rather closed-minded. I'm open to Exposé being enhanced or even replaced with something better - I just didn't want it replaced with something that has [i]less[/i] functionality and requires [i]more[/i] clicks and swipes to do the things it can do. I'm open to new takes on the fullscreen idea that get around it "covering up" a bunch of windows - I didn't want multi-monitor fullscreen support to be killed off in the process. The iMovie '08 "revolt" was justified even by Apple's tacit admission, since they made iMovie 6 HD available as a free download until all the features they had removed were put back into later versions of iMovie. The Final Cut Pro X "revolt" happening right now is even more justified, since Apple is essentially forcing professional video editors to go through the costly process of switching to another software solution. Apple's products are not exempt from criticism just because some of their actions push the industry forward. Spotlight doesn't justify Apple having the gall to charge people for .mac/MobileMe as an example. To close your eyes to all faults in their products and services is tantamount to encouraging Apple to not change and improve them, which would be terrible. I'm not asking for Exposé back: I just want Mission Control, and indeed Lion itself, to be molded into worthy successors. As harsh as I may seem with my criticisms of Lion, I would never compare Lion to Windows Millennium Edition. For all its faults, OS X Lion is still better at window management than Windows 7 by a huge margin. And even though there are some bugs in a few of Lion's bundled apps, Windows doesn't even come with bundled programs that I deem acceptable to use over any alternatives to begin with. And if Apple continues as it's been doing for the last two OS X releases, 10.8 will probably only be $29 when it comes out anyway. Trust me: most of the criticisms of Lion I've made in this thread wouldn't be there if I were coming in brand new without any prior OS X experience. I just hold Apple to a higher standard than I do Microsoft because I know from experience that they can do better than this. [/QUOTE]
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