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<blockquote data-quote="chas_m" data-source="post: 1630461">Nick: It may interest you to know that, in fact, the word &quot;refurbished&quot; has legal ramifications in most US states (and in Canada). Just as you cannot legally sell used equipment as &quot;new,&quot; neither can you sell equipment as &quot;refurbished&quot; unless it has met certain criteria, namely it has had all mechanical issues repaired and has been inspected and certified to be in good working order. Apple goes much further with their own definition, aiming for a level of repair or replacement that is indistinguishable from new, though it does allow for incredibly minor cosmetic differences from new. This is precisely why they can offer the same warranty as brand new equipment, and these forums are filled with stories of people who bought refurbs from Apple and have been delighted with them, while I can't recall so much as a single instance of Apple selling someone a refurb that was defective or damaged from Apple.In short, Apple &quot;truly refurbishes&quot; and it was somewhat irresponsible of you to suggest that they might not, even if you later (partially) corrected yourself. I'm putting that down to simple poor wording. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="chas_m, post: 1630461"] Nick: It may interest you to know that, in fact, the word "refurbished" has legal ramifications in most US states (and in Canada). Just as you cannot legally sell used equipment as "new," neither can you sell equipment as "refurbished" unless it has met certain criteria, namely it has had all mechanical issues repaired and has been inspected and certified to be in good working order. Apple goes much further with their own definition, aiming for a level of repair or replacement that is indistinguishable from new, though it does allow for incredibly minor cosmetic differences from new. This is precisely why they can offer the same warranty as brand new equipment, and these forums are filled with stories of people who bought refurbs from Apple and have been delighted with them, while I can't recall so much as a single instance of Apple selling someone a refurb that was defective or damaged from Apple. In short, Apple "truly refurbishes" and it was somewhat irresponsible of you to suggest that they might not, even if you later (partially) corrected yourself. I'm putting that down to simple poor wording. :) [/QUOTE]

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