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Message: <blockquote data-quote="bobtomay" data-source="post: 494605" data-attributes="member: 24160">From what research I've done there were two 9800 Pro Mac special Edition cards produced - the one that was being either made by Apple or specifically for Apple for the G5 and was a 8X AGP card.  The second was the retail version of the card made by ATI that was a 2x/4x AGP card.This is yet again, another example of purchasing a computer from any company, whether it be Apple, Dell, Packard Bell, Compaq, etc. that produces proprietary parts for use in their systems.  The G5's system board is an 8X only board and the ATI card produced for it is 8x only.  This reduced the cost to manufacture the computer and thus a) reduced the amount Apple could sell the computer for and/or b) increased the profit margin of the computer.  Prior to the G5 the AGP slots were a max of 4x.Once 8x AGP hit the market, the retail motherboards were typically 2x/4x/8x because the manufacturers didn't want to produce 3 different identical boards with only this one difference.  Likewise the retail versions of video cards - they were backwards compatible.I was working as a Dell tech support during that general time.  The proprietary versions of the ATI cards Dell was producing could not even use the drivers that came from ATI.  So, as ATI was updating their drivers, in particular related to functions within many of the games during the period - Dell purchasers were out of luck waiting for Dell to update their drivers - but that wasn't Dell's priority, theirs was only to sell systems - not video cards.Things like this is why there still exists today a fairly significant group of people that build their own systems rather than purchasing anything off the shelf.</blockquote>

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