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PowerMac G4 MDD Booting/reformatting problems (OS X 10.5.1)
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<blockquote data-quote="obobski" data-source="post: 1684056" data-attributes="member: 362690"><p>Thanks for the replies - was kind of afraid this would go overlooked because I'm "the new guy with a weird question." Very nice to see a sense of community. <img src="/mac_images/images/smilies/Smirk.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":Smirk:" title="Smirk :Smirk:" data-shortname=":Smirk:" /></p><p></p><p>To the questions:</p><p></p><p>-Yes I've tried the option booting. It does show the 10.5.1 disk and the optical drive, booting from the 10.5.1 partition will just give me the blue screen, and booting from the OS X disc will KP. </p><p></p><p>- The 10.3 discs are not "original" for this machine - as far as I know (and as far as the seller on ebay knew) they are retail OS X 10.3 discs. Yes I've tried holding the startup key down, and </p><p></p><p>On a hunch that maybe the 10.3 disc was bad or the hard-drive was messed up, I decided to try and find another bootable image. I ended up finding a Ubuntu 12.04 PPC LiveCD - I have no idea if Ubuntu is a good choice for PPC, but it was bootable and that's all I cared about. Linux also has the advantage (over OS X) of generally being extremely verbose during boot-up, so hopefully I could glean something there. Well, I think I may have figured out the problem with this machine: </p><p></p><p>Upon booting the Ubuntu CD, the machine sees it and boots to it no problem, bringing me to the boot prompt for yaboot. Anything that keeps it in OF text-mode works just fine, but the second it tries to start with X (as in X.org not OS X) it throws errors related to the nVidia card and then the screen corrupts before it locks up. So my suspicion is that the Ti 4600 is faulty; this isn't amazingly surprising as the card came with a buggered fan (I have since replaced that), and I've also never had great luck with nVidia cards (although, as far as I know (knew?) NV2x was largely before the era of massive failure rates due to manufacturing issues (afaik that began with the G7x era)). I'm currently on the hunt for another AGP card for this machine (should only be a few dollars) and can report back once I've tested that. </p><p></p><p>As far as the machine being so old (it was built sometime in 2002), that's kind of the point for me: I like old machines and I've largely "conquered" the Intel side of things, so I figured I'd try a Mac out next. I'm not meaning to use it for anything contemporary, but I do appreciate the caution.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="obobski, post: 1684056, member: 362690"] Thanks for the replies - was kind of afraid this would go overlooked because I'm "the new guy with a weird question." Very nice to see a sense of community. :Smirk: To the questions: -Yes I've tried the option booting. It does show the 10.5.1 disk and the optical drive, booting from the 10.5.1 partition will just give me the blue screen, and booting from the OS X disc will KP. - The 10.3 discs are not "original" for this machine - as far as I know (and as far as the seller on ebay knew) they are retail OS X 10.3 discs. Yes I've tried holding the startup key down, and On a hunch that maybe the 10.3 disc was bad or the hard-drive was messed up, I decided to try and find another bootable image. I ended up finding a Ubuntu 12.04 PPC LiveCD - I have no idea if Ubuntu is a good choice for PPC, but it was bootable and that's all I cared about. Linux also has the advantage (over OS X) of generally being extremely verbose during boot-up, so hopefully I could glean something there. Well, I think I may have figured out the problem with this machine: Upon booting the Ubuntu CD, the machine sees it and boots to it no problem, bringing me to the boot prompt for yaboot. Anything that keeps it in OF text-mode works just fine, but the second it tries to start with X (as in X.org not OS X) it throws errors related to the nVidia card and then the screen corrupts before it locks up. So my suspicion is that the Ti 4600 is faulty; this isn't amazingly surprising as the card came with a buggered fan (I have since replaced that), and I've also never had great luck with nVidia cards (although, as far as I know (knew?) NV2x was largely before the era of massive failure rates due to manufacturing issues (afaik that began with the G7x era)). I'm currently on the hunt for another AGP card for this machine (should only be a few dollars) and can report back once I've tested that. As far as the machine being so old (it was built sometime in 2002), that's kind of the point for me: I like old machines and I've largely "conquered" the Intel side of things, so I figured I'd try a Mac out next. I'm not meaning to use it for anything contemporary, but I do appreciate the caution. [/QUOTE]
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