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<blockquote data-quote="chas_m" data-source="post: 1418421"><p>In the question of "Woz or Jobs" the answer has ALWAYS been Woz (with rare exceptions) with occasional victories by Jobs.</p><p></p><p>Apple has had a few stumbles along the path, but if machine reliability were graphed out over the past, let's say, five years -- it would be a steady uphill march (much like the stock price!).</p><p></p><p>The iPad is a MARVEL of engineering. The new battery tech is (yes again) a MARVEL of engineering. The Retina Display? Not really invented by Apple per se but a MARVEL of engineering. Magsafe? Thunderbolt? The 30-pin dock connector? Unibody construction? The iSight camera? The iPhone? MARVELS. Not just "well done," they are each on their own scale *revolutionary.*</p><p></p><p>I could go on (and on!), but the point is clear: Apple's done some of the best work they've EVER done engineering wise just lately. And the design work has generally been pretty strong as well -- the day they gave up plastic for the body construction was a high point for me personally, and that wasn't all that long ago! There will always be some designs that are held in higher regard than others. Personally I think the G4 Cube (as a design) is utterly AMAZING, but that doesn't translate into sales. Apple's new Airport Express is probably the most boring LOOKING thing they've come out with in years, but the thing is AWESOME and represents (imo) a perfected form of the 802.11n router. Seriously, put it next to any other 802.11n router and have yourself a good laugh.</p><p></p><p>Woz has little to do with Apple these days and occasionally says some crazy ... er, stuff ... but to whatever extent he inspired current engineers and instilled an engineering culture into Apple (and into Jobs for that matter -- I think there's a great argument to be made that Woz is the real author of Jobs' obsession with simplicity and efficiency), Woz has a lot to be proud of.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="chas_m, post: 1418421"] In the question of "Woz or Jobs" the answer has ALWAYS been Woz (with rare exceptions) with occasional victories by Jobs. Apple has had a few stumbles along the path, but if machine reliability were graphed out over the past, let's say, five years -- it would be a steady uphill march (much like the stock price!). The iPad is a MARVEL of engineering. The new battery tech is (yes again) a MARVEL of engineering. The Retina Display? Not really invented by Apple per se but a MARVEL of engineering. Magsafe? Thunderbolt? The 30-pin dock connector? Unibody construction? The iSight camera? The iPhone? MARVELS. Not just "well done," they are each on their own scale *revolutionary.* I could go on (and on!), but the point is clear: Apple's done some of the best work they've EVER done engineering wise just lately. And the design work has generally been pretty strong as well -- the day they gave up plastic for the body construction was a high point for me personally, and that wasn't all that long ago! There will always be some designs that are held in higher regard than others. Personally I think the G4 Cube (as a design) is utterly AMAZING, but that doesn't translate into sales. Apple's new Airport Express is probably the most boring LOOKING thing they've come out with in years, but the thing is AWESOME and represents (imo) a perfected form of the 802.11n router. Seriously, put it next to any other 802.11n router and have yourself a good laugh. Woz has little to do with Apple these days and occasionally says some crazy ... er, stuff ... but to whatever extent he inspired current engineers and instilled an engineering culture into Apple (and into Jobs for that matter -- I think there's a great argument to be made that Woz is the real author of Jobs' obsession with simplicity and efficiency), Woz has a lot to be proud of. [/QUOTE]
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