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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fomer" data-source="post: 19480">Virex, no esp if your going to stay away from p2p. (No harm in having it, but Apple viruses don't exsist for the most part. Ones that do Apple usually takes care of in Updates.)Disc Warrior, heard of it but my mind is blank can't remember what it is. If its a disc-cleanup like app then I'd go with Mac Janitor or Onyx. As far as Disc Defrag on Panther. I don't own Panther, but I haven't heard of such a thing and don't see it on "reasons to switch to panther" or "whats new about panther" I'd think Apple would be showing that off since that is something Mac users have wanted. But if it is news to me, and I'll be upgrading soon so good news too!</blockquote>