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Migrating from El Capitan to High Sierra on new Mac - major problems.
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<blockquote data-quote="MacInWin" data-source="post: 1811453" data-attributes="member: 396914"><p>I read that article. Lot of "some people," "a few users," etc. in there with "potential" problems. I looked at all the "problems" and can say that I have had exactly zero of them in my migration to Mojave. Zero. </p><p></p><p>Is Mojave stable? Define "stable," or better yet, "unstable." All my applications work as advertised, my devices work, my peripherals work, my BT connections are solid, as are WiFi and Ethernet. My printers (I have three) all work properly, I have had no crashes. Is that stable?</p><p></p><p>Did anything change with Mojave? Certainly. The format of my SSD changed to APFS. My apps got updated by the developers, some of the changes I liked, some I didn't, but that's not Apple's fault or decision. I haven't lost any apps, although that's coming when the NEXT version of the OS comes out and Apple finally bans 32-bit software totally. For now it just warns me, but I'm getting very few of those these days as the developers have moved to 64 bit. Yes, Apple did change security of the system, blocking from a casual user system files and strengthening security overall. Is that a "loss" or a "gain?" I suspect that question depends on the user. I like security. Secure systems tend to be stable systems.</p><p></p><p>On "bounce," as you described it, it was a joke from the beginning. Spammers learned how to parse the bounce and verify that the email address did exist. So Apple removed useless code from the Mail application to streamline it. I'm ok with that, I like efficient code. I got rid of spam by using a service called Pobox to forward my mail for me. They filter out spam pretty well and send me an email with a list of the messages they have blocked each day. I used to check that each day, but now, after 5 years, I don't bother with that. They don't miss. And I don't see any spam. Win-Win.</p><p></p><p>Is Apple perfect? No! Do they make mistakes? Sure, and the recent iPhone6 battery replacement program is one example of them having to fix a mistake. The recent issue with butterfly keyboard keys is another. And I personally don't like the dynamic touch bar design at all or memory soldered to the logic board making it impossible for later changes, or pentalobe screws, or gluing parts in place in everything (Mac, iDevice, etc). But just because I don't like something in the design of an app, or the OS, or the hardware, that does not make it a "bug" or "defect." It's just something I don't like. And that is OK because I get to make a decision on whether or not my dislike of THAT is sufficient for me to avoid the update, hardware, app, whatever. I also originally did not like that iTunes no longer interfaces to the applications store and that updates are now over the air only. But I've adjusted to that and have discovered that I don't really miss iTunes any more. I didn't use it for music or videos, just applications, so now it's useless to me. But that's ok, I've moved on. They have plans for iTunes that don't match with my personal use for it, but it's THEIR software, so it's THEIR decision to make. If they drift far enough from where I want to be, I'll move to another manufacturer. </p><p></p><p>You want ElCap. Great, use ElCap. But when you move up to whatever follows Mojave, you cannot complain about "losing" your 32 bit software because Apple has been warning for years that it is coming. High Sierra warned, Mojave is warning more strongly, the next version will ban. Be prepared for that. But I predict that when Apple does release that upgrade there will be whining all over the internet about the "bad" decision and "mistake" from Apple in moving to all 64 bit applications. Some folks don't like change. But change happens. Otherwise we'd all be living in caves.</p><p></p><p>Going back to the original topic, I seriously suggest you make frequent backups. I still think that ElCap installation on the 2017 Mac will have issues down the road somewhere. There is some reason Apple doesn't support that version OS on that hardware. Sooner or later that incompatibility of firmware/OS/Application will appear.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MacInWin, post: 1811453, member: 396914"] I read that article. Lot of "some people," "a few users," etc. in there with "potential" problems. I looked at all the "problems" and can say that I have had exactly zero of them in my migration to Mojave. Zero. Is Mojave stable? Define "stable," or better yet, "unstable." All my applications work as advertised, my devices work, my peripherals work, my BT connections are solid, as are WiFi and Ethernet. My printers (I have three) all work properly, I have had no crashes. Is that stable? Did anything change with Mojave? Certainly. The format of my SSD changed to APFS. My apps got updated by the developers, some of the changes I liked, some I didn't, but that's not Apple's fault or decision. I haven't lost any apps, although that's coming when the NEXT version of the OS comes out and Apple finally bans 32-bit software totally. For now it just warns me, but I'm getting very few of those these days as the developers have moved to 64 bit. Yes, Apple did change security of the system, blocking from a casual user system files and strengthening security overall. Is that a "loss" or a "gain?" I suspect that question depends on the user. I like security. Secure systems tend to be stable systems. On "bounce," as you described it, it was a joke from the beginning. Spammers learned how to parse the bounce and verify that the email address did exist. So Apple removed useless code from the Mail application to streamline it. I'm ok with that, I like efficient code. I got rid of spam by using a service called Pobox to forward my mail for me. They filter out spam pretty well and send me an email with a list of the messages they have blocked each day. I used to check that each day, but now, after 5 years, I don't bother with that. They don't miss. And I don't see any spam. Win-Win. Is Apple perfect? No! Do they make mistakes? Sure, and the recent iPhone6 battery replacement program is one example of them having to fix a mistake. The recent issue with butterfly keyboard keys is another. And I personally don't like the dynamic touch bar design at all or memory soldered to the logic board making it impossible for later changes, or pentalobe screws, or gluing parts in place in everything (Mac, iDevice, etc). But just because I don't like something in the design of an app, or the OS, or the hardware, that does not make it a "bug" or "defect." It's just something I don't like. And that is OK because I get to make a decision on whether or not my dislike of THAT is sufficient for me to avoid the update, hardware, app, whatever. I also originally did not like that iTunes no longer interfaces to the applications store and that updates are now over the air only. But I've adjusted to that and have discovered that I don't really miss iTunes any more. I didn't use it for music or videos, just applications, so now it's useless to me. But that's ok, I've moved on. They have plans for iTunes that don't match with my personal use for it, but it's THEIR software, so it's THEIR decision to make. If they drift far enough from where I want to be, I'll move to another manufacturer. You want ElCap. Great, use ElCap. But when you move up to whatever follows Mojave, you cannot complain about "losing" your 32 bit software because Apple has been warning for years that it is coming. High Sierra warned, Mojave is warning more strongly, the next version will ban. Be prepared for that. But I predict that when Apple does release that upgrade there will be whining all over the internet about the "bad" decision and "mistake" from Apple in moving to all 64 bit applications. Some folks don't like change. But change happens. Otherwise we'd all be living in caves. Going back to the original topic, I seriously suggest you make frequent backups. I still think that ElCap installation on the 2017 Mac will have issues down the road somewhere. There is some reason Apple doesn't support that version OS on that hardware. Sooner or later that incompatibility of firmware/OS/Application will appear. [/QUOTE]
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