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<blockquote data-quote="Daddy Elmis" data-source="post: 573325" data-attributes="member: 16533">&quot;Lastly, Apple isn't offering the Touch with the apps for free as many people think. All Touches being sold now that don't include these apps are being sold for $20 less. If I went to the Apple store and bought a Touch right now, it would be $279. (obviously not on the online store since it's not selling the Touch without the apps.) Basically, Apple lowered the price on current Touches, offered up the apps for $20, and bundled the apps on all new Touches for $20 more all at once. Now it's pretty clear that this is mostly thinly-veiled accounting trickery, but again, it's perception. If Apple lowered the price of Touch to $279 and included the optional $20 apps 2-3 months down the road, it would be the same thing, but without the negative perception.&quot;Not sure I follow your logic here.&nbsp; An 8gig IPT cost 299 without the apps before Xmas.&nbsp; Now they want $20 from me for the apps, bringing my total cost to $319 for an IPT with apps.&nbsp; A brand new touch with apps from the apple online store is $299.&nbsp; From a brick and mortar store without apps is $279 (discounted presumedly to allow the buyer to purchase the apps for $20 to get back to the original $299 with apps price).&nbsp; So no matter how you look at it I'm screwed to the tune of $20 comparing &quot;apples to apples&quot; (no pun intended).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Daddy Elmis, post: 573325, member: 16533"] "Lastly, Apple isn't offering the Touch with the apps for free as many people think. All Touches being sold now that don't include these apps are being sold for $20 less. If I went to the Apple store and bought a Touch right now, it would be $279. (obviously not on the online store since it's not selling the Touch without the apps.) Basically, Apple lowered the price on current Touches, offered up the apps for $20, and bundled the apps on all new Touches for $20 more all at once. Now it's pretty clear that this is mostly thinly-veiled accounting trickery, but again, it's perception. If Apple lowered the price of Touch to $279 and included the optional $20 apps 2-3 months down the road, it would be the same thing, but without the negative perception." Not sure I follow your logic here. An 8gig IPT cost 299 [B]without[/B] the apps before Xmas. Now they want $20 from me for the apps, bringing my total cost to $319 for an IPT [B]with [/B]apps. A brand new touch [B]with [/B]apps from the apple online store is $299. From a brick and mortar store [B]without [/B]apps is $279 (discounted presumedly to allow the buyer to purchase the apps for $20 to get back to the original $299 [B]with [/B]apps price). So no matter how you look at it I'm screwed to the tune of $20 comparing "apples to apples" (no pun intended). [/QUOTE]

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