Here we go again.... iOS 13.1.2 has been released.

[chscag]

13.1.2 contains bug fixes. New release is for both the iPhone and iPadOS.

Make sure you backup - iTunes, iMazing, iCloud. Your choice.

 

[ferrarr]

Thanks, updating iPad now.


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[IWT]

This seems like sloppy work by Apple. Camera not working, Flash not working, Bluetooth problems, calibration data not shown etc. I'm not on a rant, its just this is the third update within days and surely some of these obvious problems should have been recognised and fixed earlier?

Oh well, off to update 2 iPads and 2 iPhones - what fun

Ian

 

[chscag]

As the old saying goes... If you don't get it right the first time, try, try again. LOL

Ian is right. Very sloppy implementation by Apple.

 

[Raz0rEdge]

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This seems like sloppy work by Apple. Camera not working, Flash not working, Bluetooth problems, calibration data not shown etc. I'm not on a rant, its just this is the third update within days and surely some of these obvious problems should have been recognised and fixed earlier?

Oh well, off to update 2 iPads and 2 iPhones - what fun

Ian

Totally agree, especially after having that many betas of all their OS versions, you would think some of this basic functionality would have been tested to be working. The other possibility is that these crazy situations that cause the issues and not something most of us would've run into, but Apple is proactively fixing them to avoid people running into it.

 

[Rod]

Do ya get the feeling they're rushing this a bit? Maybe they just bit off a bit more than they could chew with a new model iPhone, upgraded iOS and iPad OS plus Apple TV and Apple watch upgrades all to be ready for major macOS upgrade this month.
I cant say I ran into any of the listed bugs on my two devices but obviously some did. Maybe I don't qualify as a "power user"? :Blushing:

PS. I suggested my wife not bother to upgrade yet when iOS 13 was first released. I'm rather glad about that now.

 

[IWT]

I suggested my wife not bother to upgrade yet when iOS 13 was first released. I'm rather glad about that now

Rod: in your wife's eyes, that's probably the first time you got anything right

Ian

 

[Nighthawk4]

Think I will wait a bit longer for my main iPhone and iPad.

I have a iPad on the beta and an older iPhone on 13.1 I think.

Not keen on the Reminders app and the more difficult way of flagging an email. Also updates are more complicated - a solution to a problem they need not have created, just to remove the updates tab.


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[Nighthawk4]

Also updated the AppleTV. Now it keeps wanting me to link it with another device, even though I did that with two devices already


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[lclev]

Well it messed up my Fantastical2 calendar. I use the Apple Calendar for work since we have a shared calendar for events. I use Fantastical2 for my personal calendar. On my iPhone Fantastical2 works as it is supposed to. On my Watch it combines the events from both the Fantastical2 and Apple Calendars together. I have the Fantastical2 complication only on my watch face.

I emailed Flexbits who developed Fantastical2 and they told me they are aware of the issue. It is an iOS problem but they are working on it. Jordan, the gentleman who replied, said he had the same problem on his watch. At least there is motivation to fix it.... I hope.

What is most annoying is being notified for EVERYTHING! At work they list everyone's meetings, birthdays - including kids and grandkids, etc. So I have to look when my watch vibrates to see if the notice is for me.

Oh, and don't get me started on the changes to reminders and app updates... but others have addressed these aggravations.

Lisa

 

[chscag]

Oh, and don't get me started on the changes to reminders and app updates... but others have addressed these aggravations.

We've been told that Reminders will be fixed when Catalina is released. The problem now is that with iOS 13 Reminders no longer sync. My question to Apple is what about those folks who do not upgrade to Catalina?

 

[MacInWin]

The problem now is that with iOS 13 Reminders no longer sync.

Mine do. Am I missing something?

 

[lclev]

Mine do. Am I missing something?

Nope - just count yourself lucky Jake!

Lisa

 

[pm-r]

This seems like sloppy work by Apple. Camera not working, Flash not working, Bluetooth problems, calibration data not shown etc. I'm not on a rant, its just this is the third update within days and surely some of these obvious problems should have been recognised and fixed earlier?

Totally agree, especially after having that many betas of all their OS versions, you would think some of this basic functionality would have been tested to be working. The other possibility is that these crazy situations that cause the issues and not something most of us would've run into,

Maybe it's just my imagination, but this seems to be rather typical OS sloppy screw-ups that has been happening with most of apples OS upgrades and even updates with a lot of the versions the last few years.

I don't know how they develop an OS upgrade, but I would expect them to keep and develop a good basic base OS and just add and/or make improvements to it. But from all issues, it seems that they almost start over from scratch and rewrite the whole operating system (OS) as if it were completely new, and then incorporate any new changes or improvements, some of which are not properly integrated.

Why can't they just add the OS changes or improvement to an existing OS that was already good and working well???

Also, why do they keep dropping small little features that many of us relied on?

Maybe they should rethink about releasing a brand new OS every single year and fix ALL the things in a current major version before releasing a brand "New and Improved" OS complete with all its new and incompatible causing bugs.

And like Ian, I'm not on an Apple rant but just a queary and a suggestion, and no I don't expext things to change.

Just saying...



- Patrick
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[Rod]

Rod: in your wife's eyes, that's probably the first time you got anything right

Ian

You got it Ian.;D

 

[MacInWin]

Maybe it's just my imagination, but this seems to be rather typical OS sloppy screw-ups that has been happening with most of apples OS upgrades and even updates with a lot of the versions the last few years.

I think it's not imagination but forgetfulness of the "problems" in the past. There has never been a bug-free release of any OS, including OSX and macOS. That's why the dot releases come out. What Apple is doing, from my perspective, is speeding up the bug-to-fix cycle to be faster. And that's a good thing.

I don't know how they develop an OS upgrade, but I would expect them to keep and develop a good basic base OS and just add and/or make improvements to it. But from all issues, it seems that they almost start over from scratch and rewrite the whole operating system (OS) as if it were completely new, and then incorporate any new changes or improvements, some of which are not properly integrated.

Why can't they just add the OS changes or improvement to an existing OS that was already good and working well???

Hardware changes. New cameras, new processors, new modems, you name it. The integration of hardware and software is much tighter now with all the secure enclaves, etc. So the OS has more changes to take advantage of the hardware. Not a total rewrite, but enough changes that it feels like one.

Also, why do they keep dropping small little features that many of us relied on?

Because they don't agree that the features are useful, or have heard from other users that the features are not useful, or distractive, or otherwise not wanted. They cannot meet every person's design desires, so they listen to those they trust most. I don't know who that may be and I don't always agree with those decisions, but that's how software is developed. I know because I was in that industry for 30 years and we just had to recognize that no matter what we did, somebody would be unhappy. My motto was "distribute the unhappiness evenly."

Maybe they should rethink about releasing a brand new OS every single year and fix ALL the things in a current major version before releasing a brand "New and Improved" OS complete with all its new and incompatible causing bugs.

Again, hardware drives it. Think how the market (stock market, that is) would react if Apple decided to skip a year for iPhones, iPads, etc.

And like Ian, I'm not on an Apple rant but just a queary and a suggestion, and no I don't expext things to change.

Just saying...



- Patrick
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They won't. ;D

 

[ferrarr]

Mine do. Am I missing something?

Did you upgrade to iOS/iPadOS 13?

At first, I didn’t have an issue, but then I noticed an “upgrade” option on my iPhone Reminders app, when I was going through my Reminders, and I pressed it. Now I am unable to access them on my Mini. I also noticed a few of them are missing, so I will have to wait until Catalina to see if I can find my missing reminders.


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[Nighthawk4]

For the moment I just try to remember not to touch any reminders on either of the devices I upgraded. I only do that on my iPhone Xr and iPad Pro, neither of which has been upgraded yet.

Incidentally my old iPad has the beta and my old iPhone the live version. Oddly, both report they have same version, even though the profile is still active. Has the live version now caught up with the beta?


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[lclev]

Patrick - I agree. This "create a new OS version" with all kinds of bells and whistles then having to rush out fixes one right after the other is very annoying. What is really annoying is when something you depend on is broken and the wait begins for them to fix it.

I am not on board with always keeping the original OS and just improve it. Eventually code bloat will be inevitable. Just look at Windows. Sometimes starting over is a good thing.

Lisa

 

[MacInWin]

Did you upgrade to iOS/iPadOS 13?

At first, I didn’t have an issue, but then I noticed an “upgrade” option on my iPhone Reminders app, when I was going through my Reminders, and I pressed it. Now I am unable to access them on my Mini. I also noticed a few of them are missing, so I will have to wait until Catalina to see if I can find my missing reminders.


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Yes. I am running iOS 13.1.2 on the iPhone, ipadOS 13.1.2 on the iPad and Mojave 10.14.6 on the MBP. All signed into iCloud, everything as before the upgrades. I ddi get the "you have to upgrade" message, but it seems to have worked just fine. I never loaded any betas, could that be it?