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Message: <blockquote data-quote="6string" data-source="post: 1017059" data-attributes="member: 120039">Also, when you post back....... do so with your Mac specs, and any other details about all the apps and their versions that have been giving you grief, what you mean by unexpectantly shutdown, the wireless router, and anything else you can think of.The loss of wireless connection can be many things, and the unexpected shutdown can mean anything, but if your Mac is actually turning off, this is of concern. So, as much detail as you can give would really help us all here at Mac Forums to tackle the many issues that you may be having! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>