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<blockquote data-quote="MikeFromMesa" data-source="post: 1901693" data-attributes="member: 305741"><p><strong>> I presume you have them in your login items for your account, which may not be the best way to start them up.</strong></p><p></p><p>I do not. In fact only the NTFS driver starts automatically. Everything else has to be started manually, and I did that on purpose since I thought the issue might have something to do with having them auto start at login.</p><p></p><p>Also my system is setup to do an automatic login, and so when I start the apps that are giving me this issue it is well after the auto login has completed and, in computer time, that makes it forever after the login. More than enough time for things to settle down.</p><p></p><p>Out of curiosity I will turn off the auto login so I can do a manual login after a cold start and see if that makes any difference, but that will not be until tomorrow morning.</p><p></p><p><strong>> If you want to continue to experiment, you could do a full backup, then a nuke'n'pave full erase/install of the OS and then reinstall just one application at a time to see which one triggers the strange behavior.</strong></p><p></p><p>I might do that if that is what it takes to solve this problem. Over the years I have done so many clean OS installs that one more will not make much difference. </p><p></p><p>The software issue (I don't really care about the keyboard and mouse issues and only mentioned them to be complete) annoys me not because it causes me a lot of work. Restarting the system after a cold start only takes about 30 seconds and since I do this when I get up I am doing other things while the start takes place anyway, so it doesn't bother me at all in terms of the extra work. The fact is that it bothers me because it should not be happening and because I don't know why it is happening.</p><p></p><p>I suppose it has to do with all of those years when my job was to find and solve these kinds of software problems, but then I had the code and normally a dump file and I could search through the code and dump to find out what went wrong. Here I have neither and not knowing what the problem really is is probably what is bothering me the most.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MikeFromMesa, post: 1901693, member: 305741"] [B]> I presume you have them in your login items for your account, which may not be the best way to start them up.[/B] I do not. In fact only the NTFS driver starts automatically. Everything else has to be started manually, and I did that on purpose since I thought the issue might have something to do with having them auto start at login. Also my system is setup to do an automatic login, and so when I start the apps that are giving me this issue it is well after the auto login has completed and, in computer time, that makes it forever after the login. More than enough time for things to settle down. Out of curiosity I will turn off the auto login so I can do a manual login after a cold start and see if that makes any difference, but that will not be until tomorrow morning. [B]> If you want to continue to experiment, you could do a full backup, then a nuke'n'pave full erase/install of the OS and then reinstall just one application at a time to see which one triggers the strange behavior.[/B] I might do that if that is what it takes to solve this problem. Over the years I have done so many clean OS installs that one more will not make much difference. The software issue (I don't really care about the keyboard and mouse issues and only mentioned them to be complete) annoys me not because it causes me a lot of work. Restarting the system after a cold start only takes about 30 seconds and since I do this when I get up I am doing other things while the start takes place anyway, so it doesn't bother me at all in terms of the extra work. The fact is that it bothers me because it should not be happening and because I don't know why it is happening. I suppose it has to do with all of those years when my job was to find and solve these kinds of software problems, but then I had the code and normally a dump file and I could search through the code and dump to find out what went wrong. Here I have neither and not knowing what the problem really is is probably what is bothering me the most. [/QUOTE]
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