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<blockquote data-quote="the8thark" data-source="post: 731425" data-attributes="member: 26315"><p>How many wav samples/loops are you planing on having and using on the Mac? If it's in the 100-200 GB+ range. Which is pretty easy to have even for an amateur for me, you'll need a lot of storage. Cause you have to add in all the space required for your works in progress as well.</p><p></p><p>So if you go for the power mac you can get a lot of internal HD space. But then you'll lack having intel. Which is nice for being able to use windows easily on the mac.</p><p></p><p>But if you get an imac (intel one) you'll need an external hard drive for all of the above stuff. As the imac's internal just isn't enough for a serious music user. Anyways with an external 1 TB drive (which are relatively cheap these days) you'd have enough space left over to use as a scratch disc if you wanted to.</p><p></p><p>But if new intel prices are a little too steep for you, there is always the Apple Refurbished store. There are at times a few good deals in there.</p><p></p><p>And I don't know about PPC machines. But on my 2Ghz imac apps like Logic and garageband work flawlessly and that's with a heap of other apps in the background as well.</p><p></p><p>Here's the link to download mactracker:</p><p><a href="http://mactracker.dreamhosters.com/" target="_blank">http://mactracker.dreamhosters.com/</a></p><p></p><p>And lastly you'll need to have at least 2 GB of ram in your mac. Get it from a 3rd party shop and install it yourself. Apple's ram prices are insanly high. </p><p></p><p>And also just make sure with the new mac you get ilife 08. Why? Cause it'll have the latest version of Garageband in it. And it's not the most feature filled music editor/creator out there. But very nice when coupled with other solutons such as logic (which I love). And the latest logic have all of the garageband jam packs in it as well. Well all bar the voices one. And I'm not so sure if you'd get much use out of voices. But the rest (ie extra loops/software instruments) stuff I'm sure you already know about would really make your life a lot easier as a mixer.</p><p></p><p>So my suggestion?</p><p></p><p>I'd say look for an intel imac, (refurbished is you can't afford new) and a portable hard drive for all the loops, backups and scratch disks.</p><p></p><p>The Mac Pro is great also. But sever overkill I think in the power and cost department, so not really a good option.</p><p></p><p>But if you're insistent on a PPC (ie G4 or G5) just look around for other's experiences on using apps like logic on those machines. Cause you don't want to buy one anr realised only after the fact that it's to slow for your liking. They might work for you, it's all up to how hardcore you want to be with your music.</p><p></p><p>*****************************</p><p></p><p>And to answer your questions directly:</p><p></p><p>About the G4/G5 mac pro:</p><p></p><p>Yes you can go dual screen. And the 800mhz might just not be enough. Because according to Apple the requirements for logic 8 are 1.25 Ghz and OS 10.4.9 But they recommend a G5 or intel for it. And yes G5 is still a power mac. The Mac Pro is intel. So I would ask the seller there which one it is before you think about buying it.</p><p></p><p>About the imac G5:</p><p></p><p>You can upgrade the ram in it easily to a max of 2.0-2.5 GB depending on which G5 imac you are looking at. And the hard drive is upgradeable. But not really easy to do. Quite the difficult. And is 3 USB + firewire ports not enough for you? If that's the case you'll have to go a hub for external HD space. And lastly yes I'm pretty sure you can dual screen with them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="the8thark, post: 731425, member: 26315"] How many wav samples/loops are you planing on having and using on the Mac? If it's in the 100-200 GB+ range. Which is pretty easy to have even for an amateur for me, you'll need a lot of storage. Cause you have to add in all the space required for your works in progress as well. So if you go for the power mac you can get a lot of internal HD space. But then you'll lack having intel. Which is nice for being able to use windows easily on the mac. But if you get an imac (intel one) you'll need an external hard drive for all of the above stuff. As the imac's internal just isn't enough for a serious music user. Anyways with an external 1 TB drive (which are relatively cheap these days) you'd have enough space left over to use as a scratch disc if you wanted to. But if new intel prices are a little too steep for you, there is always the Apple Refurbished store. There are at times a few good deals in there. And I don't know about PPC machines. But on my 2Ghz imac apps like Logic and garageband work flawlessly and that's with a heap of other apps in the background as well. Here's the link to download mactracker: [url]http://mactracker.dreamhosters.com/[/url] And lastly you'll need to have at least 2 GB of ram in your mac. Get it from a 3rd party shop and install it yourself. Apple's ram prices are insanly high. And also just make sure with the new mac you get ilife 08. Why? Cause it'll have the latest version of Garageband in it. And it's not the most feature filled music editor/creator out there. But very nice when coupled with other solutons such as logic (which I love). And the latest logic have all of the garageband jam packs in it as well. Well all bar the voices one. And I'm not so sure if you'd get much use out of voices. But the rest (ie extra loops/software instruments) stuff I'm sure you already know about would really make your life a lot easier as a mixer. So my suggestion? I'd say look for an intel imac, (refurbished is you can't afford new) and a portable hard drive for all the loops, backups and scratch disks. The Mac Pro is great also. But sever overkill I think in the power and cost department, so not really a good option. But if you're insistent on a PPC (ie G4 or G5) just look around for other's experiences on using apps like logic on those machines. Cause you don't want to buy one anr realised only after the fact that it's to slow for your liking. They might work for you, it's all up to how hardcore you want to be with your music. ***************************** And to answer your questions directly: About the G4/G5 mac pro: Yes you can go dual screen. And the 800mhz might just not be enough. Because according to Apple the requirements for logic 8 are 1.25 Ghz and OS 10.4.9 But they recommend a G5 or intel for it. And yes G5 is still a power mac. The Mac Pro is intel. So I would ask the seller there which one it is before you think about buying it. About the imac G5: You can upgrade the ram in it easily to a max of 2.0-2.5 GB depending on which G5 imac you are looking at. And the hard drive is upgradeable. But not really easy to do. Quite the difficult. And is 3 USB + firewire ports not enough for you? If that's the case you'll have to go a hub for external HD space. And lastly yes I'm pretty sure you can dual screen with them. [/QUOTE]
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