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<blockquote data-quote="hempomatic" data-source="post: 1900751" data-attributes="member: 335450">Well, I have no idea how to create another volume and run any other OS, nor frankly, do I have any intention of ever doing so given the bad luck I've had with every update since Mavericks the last OS I NEVER had a single issue with for the first 4 or 5 years I owned that computer LOL.&nbsp; Falling for the hype of how wonderful and life altering the new OS was along with the paranoia surrounding SECURITY SECURITY <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😱" title="Face screaming in fear&nbsp; &nbsp; :scream:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.5/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" data-shortname=":scream:" /> update immediately or give up all security and usability BS is when the wheels came off.&nbsp; I am now HOPING to find a gently used 2010 to 2012 machine so I can run Mountain Lion or Mavericks, but that seems less and less likely as time marches on, so I'm also presently looking for a 2015 Retina MBP machine since it's the last model where I can replace the HD (Is that accurate? ).&nbsp; Sierra and High Sierra were at least usable, even Mojave to a point, but beyond that there is simply no way I can work with Catalina or beyond.&nbsp; When I find an older machine that suits my needs, at that point I will sell this machine and happily bask in my continued ignorance.&nbsp; <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😀" title="Grinning face&nbsp; &nbsp; :grinning:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.5/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" data-shortname=":grinning:" />Thank you everyone for your input and help.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="hempomatic, post: 1900751, member: 335450"] Well, I have no idea how to create another volume and run any other OS, nor frankly, do I have any intention of ever doing so given the bad luck I've had with every update since Mavericks the last OS I NEVER had a single issue with for the first 4 or 5 years I owned that computer LOL. Falling for the hype of how wonderful and life altering the new OS was along with the paranoia surrounding SECURITY SECURITY 😱 update immediately or give up all security and usability BS is when the wheels came off. I am now HOPING to find a gently used 2010 to 2012 machine so I can run Mountain Lion or Mavericks, but that seems less and less likely as time marches on, so I'm also presently looking for a 2015 Retina MBP machine since it's the last model where I can replace the HD (Is that accurate? ). Sierra and High Sierra were at least usable, even Mojave to a point, but beyond that there is simply no way I can work with Catalina or beyond. When I find an older machine that suits my needs, at that point I will sell this machine and happily bask in my continued ignorance. 😀 Thank you everyone for your input and help. [/QUOTE]

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