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<blockquote data-quote="sailor#1" data-source="post: 1708276" data-attributes="member: 231337"><p>Great points made in this thread especially those by Nick on probable cause and need to buy new. If it ain't broke, don't replace it unless you can't do what you need to do with what you have. I believe Nick's points are well taken and the easiest the check with disk being the most likely culprit. It's probably too full or on its way out. Backup is certainly in order.</p><p></p><p>"Too full" can mean different things depending on the size of the drive as well as the size of your RAM. A 250GB drive can be too full at 60% if you only have 4GB RAM and doing a lot of virtual memory swapping. Instead, a 4TB drive may not be sluggish at 90% or more if 32GB keeps the need for virtuality to a minimum. It all depends on what's going on internally. So take a look at your Activity monitor with this in mind. Nevertheless, today's software (Bloatware? Nobody tries to write tight code any more.) puts increasing stress on RAM and thus more swapping (and disk wear as a result). RAM is now cheap. Go for it.</p><p></p><p>Regarding the health of your disk, of course DU can "repair" a problem but may not do a complete job if the disk is getting tired. If bucks are really tight, and your HDD is in good shape, a restoration may be in the cards as suggested. You might try to run the Apple Hardware Test (AHT) for your machine if you can figure out how to do this. You're lucky if it resides in your System's CoreServices directory and can access it wth the D-startup option. For some reason it doesn't in mine and I'm currently trying to figure out how to download and run real diagnostics using AHT. Anyone have any ideas?</p><p></p><p>Finally, in this already too long post, Apple computers are an order above regular PCs in quality and should last considerably longer. They are built like fine electronic instrumentation as opposed to the tinkerware nature of most PCs...thin tin, dangling cables, cheap connectors, etc. When did you last see a backplane on a PC? My first Mac was a 1,1 Pro vintage 2006. I would still be using that if Apple hadn't stopped allowing OS upgrades past Lion. I bought a used, 2009, 8-Core, 2.66GHz 4,1 and jammed 32G into the RAM slots stuffed a 1TB SSD into one of the optical drive slots. I use this for the OS (10.11) and apps. All disk sleds are used for standard HDDs. I use one 2T unit for my user space, one as an alternative startup drive (with Yosemite) and two others with software RAID as an internal time machine. It's blazing fast on both startup and operation for what I do and I plan to keep it for as long as it continues working...if it doesn't go up in flames first. At 79, I do not see significant software upgrades in my future. Perhaps someone will bundle this machine with me when I end up horizontal. But not for a few years!</p><p></p><p>---OJ</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sailor#1, post: 1708276, member: 231337"] Great points made in this thread especially those by Nick on probable cause and need to buy new. If it ain't broke, don't replace it unless you can't do what you need to do with what you have. I believe Nick's points are well taken and the easiest the check with disk being the most likely culprit. It's probably too full or on its way out. Backup is certainly in order. "Too full" can mean different things depending on the size of the drive as well as the size of your RAM. A 250GB drive can be too full at 60% if you only have 4GB RAM and doing a lot of virtual memory swapping. Instead, a 4TB drive may not be sluggish at 90% or more if 32GB keeps the need for virtuality to a minimum. It all depends on what's going on internally. So take a look at your Activity monitor with this in mind. Nevertheless, today's software (Bloatware? Nobody tries to write tight code any more.) puts increasing stress on RAM and thus more swapping (and disk wear as a result). RAM is now cheap. Go for it. Regarding the health of your disk, of course DU can "repair" a problem but may not do a complete job if the disk is getting tired. If bucks are really tight, and your HDD is in good shape, a restoration may be in the cards as suggested. You might try to run the Apple Hardware Test (AHT) for your machine if you can figure out how to do this. You're lucky if it resides in your System's CoreServices directory and can access it wth the D-startup option. For some reason it doesn't in mine and I'm currently trying to figure out how to download and run real diagnostics using AHT. Anyone have any ideas? Finally, in this already too long post, Apple computers are an order above regular PCs in quality and should last considerably longer. They are built like fine electronic instrumentation as opposed to the tinkerware nature of most PCs...thin tin, dangling cables, cheap connectors, etc. When did you last see a backplane on a PC? My first Mac was a 1,1 Pro vintage 2006. I would still be using that if Apple hadn't stopped allowing OS upgrades past Lion. I bought a used, 2009, 8-Core, 2.66GHz 4,1 and jammed 32G into the RAM slots stuffed a 1TB SSD into one of the optical drive slots. I use this for the OS (10.11) and apps. All disk sleds are used for standard HDDs. I use one 2T unit for my user space, one as an alternative startup drive (with Yosemite) and two others with software RAID as an internal time machine. It's blazing fast on both startup and operation for what I do and I plan to keep it for as long as it continues working...if it doesn't go up in flames first. At 79, I do not see significant software upgrades in my future. Perhaps someone will bundle this machine with me when I end up horizontal. But not for a few years! ---OJ [/QUOTE]
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