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<blockquote data-quote="Odin_aa" data-source="post: 344146" data-attributes="member: 11814">I can understand your thought process, and most people do not need it.Very true, unless you are an event shooter or shoot 100's of files per day under the same lighting conditions you will get no benefit in RAW processing from lightroom (or aperture).&nbsp; Using any application if you save changes as a different copy then your RAW files remain intact.&nbsp; CS3 will include ACR 4.0 (or is it 4.1?) which has many of the same great benefits that lightroom has.&nbsp; I would not say its sharpening process is useless, however it is not high on customizing for an image.&nbsp; No, it cannot dodge or burn however it is not meant to be a substitution for a manipulation program.First your assuming that people who own photoshop and elements also own bridge.&nbsp; I also agree here, the photoshop/bridge workflow is great.&nbsp; For me, what lightroom brings is a better raw editor into the mix and the file management is much better than bridge.&nbsp; I have not worked with Aperture, so cannot comment on their asset management capabilities.I have not used, nor do I have any plans on using these features.I have not used Elements in a few years, from what I remember it is a great program for $100 US and normally strongly recommend it to someone wishing to save money.&nbsp; I would assume the ACR for Elements will be very similar to that of CS3 so that should make for a great choice with or without lightroom for the average joe.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Odin_aa, post: 344146, member: 11814"] I can understand your thought process, and most people do not [B]need[/B] it. Very true, unless you are an event shooter or shoot 100's of files per day under the same lighting conditions you will get no benefit in RAW processing from lightroom (or aperture). Using any application if you save changes as a different copy then your RAW files remain intact. CS3 will include ACR 4.0 (or is it 4.1?) which has many of the same great benefits that lightroom has. I would not say its sharpening process is useless, however it is not high on customizing for an image. No, it cannot dodge or burn however it is not meant to be a substitution for a manipulation program. First your assuming that people who own photoshop and elements also own bridge. I also agree here, the photoshop/bridge workflow is great. For me, what lightroom brings is a better raw editor into the mix and the file management is much better than bridge. I have not worked with Aperture, so cannot comment on their asset management capabilities. I have not used, nor do I have any plans on using these features. I have not used Elements in a few years, from what I remember it is a great program for $100 US and normally strongly recommend it to someone wishing to save money. I would assume the ACR for Elements will be very similar to that of CS3 so that should make for a great choice with or without lightroom for the average joe. [/QUOTE]

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