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    Windows natively on mac pro 1,1
    Hey so I have a mac pro 1,1 that has lion on it and I took the hdd out and put another in it which is 320gb. So I put win 10 on the dvd and have it installed. So what is the process to install a gpu in it now and there's no boot camp or nothing just win 10 64 bit. Please actual help and dont say it can't be done because I have win 10 on the mac
    Last edited by chscag; 08-27-2018 at 03:18 PM. Reason: Title spelling

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    Windows natively on mac pro 1,1
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    Welcome to our forums.

    Exactly what is it that you want to do with the Mac Pro? Are you wanting to install a different graphics card other than the one already in the machine? You mentioned you have Windows 10 64 bit installed but do you realize that the Mac Pro 1,1 is not a 64 bit machine?

    Anyway, stick around and someone who has experience with Mac Pros will try to answer your question.

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    Windows natively on mac pro 1,1
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    What is the issue? If you have Windows 10 installed then pick a PC video card that will fit in the PCIe slot. Windows should install a driver for it and if not you can install one from the manufacturer. I am not familiar with what power cables are available in the MP 1,1 but just make sure you will have the cables you need for what ever card you pick. For example when I picked the GTX 1080 card I currently used I made sure it would only need two six pin external power cables as I did not want to mess with adding an auxiliary power supply.

    BTW: I have done things on various macs and gotten stuff to work only to read later it should not have. Ignorance is bliss - and sometimes things just work - or they don't. But it never hurts to try!

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    I know it's not a 64 bit I moved some files around to make the mac think it's a 64 bit so I can run 64 bit programs and stuff. Because it wouldn't boot to win as its 32 bit. But everything works fine except the audio ports no sound. Then the nvidia 7300gt card 256 mb its the original. And the only drivers are win xp. Its just lion you couldn't get any pc cards on it at least I know of so this was a attempt. I just hope when I stick a random pc card in it'll show something on screen.

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    And lisa does that mean I dont have to bother with having a mac compadible video card. And i dont have to do any weird thing to files to make it work

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    Windows natively on mac pro 1,1
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    Exactly what is it that you want to do with the Mac Pro? … … … You mentioned you have Windows 10 64 bit installed but do you realize that the Mac Pro 1,1 is not a 64 bit machine?

    I'm confused as well but have little (call it almost none) Windows experience, but I was surprised to know that Mac Pro was not a 64-bit Mac, along with some others:
    https://everymac.com/mac-answers/sno...-bit-mode.html

    Thanks for that bit of info.





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    Windows natively on mac pro 1,1
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    Mac Pro 1 are 64 bit architecture but alas with a 32bit Firmware. This crippled the machine when later operating systems demanded the 64bit Firmware but there are work arounds.

    YTou can leave the current Mac card, and add a Windows card, or upgrade the current card to on e that will handle both. Have a look at Mac Rumours.
    Using OS X.7 or later make a bootable USB thumb drive before running Installer!

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    Windows natively on mac pro 1,1
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    Mac Pro 1 are 64 bit architecture but alas with a 32bit Firmware. This crippled the machine when later operating systems demanded the 64bit Firmware but there are work arounds.

    Thanks Harry, I was just trying to read and understand about it here and the various topics:
    http://refit.sourceforge.net/info/apple_efi.html
    But it was too confusing for my old brain.

    YTou can leave the current Mac card, and add a Windows card, or upgrade the current card to on e that will handle both. Have a look at Mac Rumours.
    The Mac upgrade site used to have lots of advice on such upgrades as well, and maybe they still do especially for compatibility information that may help:
    http://www.xlr8yourmac.com




    - Patrick
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    Windows natively on mac pro 1,1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avarobinson View Post
    I know it's not a 64 bit I moved some files around to make the mac think it's a 64 bit so I can run 64 bit programs and stuff. Because it wouldn't boot to win as its 32 bit.
    So does this mean you flashed the firmware so it is now 64 bit?

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    Windows natively on mac pro 1,1
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    You can only hack it Lisa using a kext. It stays 32bit but thinks it is a 64bit EFI. One of those male things your gentle lady girls would not understand lol!

    It is a pretty complicated, and risky, procedure.
    Last edited by harryb2448; 08-27-2018 at 10:39 PM.
    Using OS X.7 or later make a bootable USB thumb drive before running Installer!

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    Windows natively on mac pro 1,1
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    Is that ok to discuss on these forums now?
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    Please backup. Everything has a life cycle, unexpected and warning free. Nothing will last as long as you want it to.

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    Windows natively on mac pro 1,1
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    Okay - I get it Harry. Thanks.

    Bob - We are not discussing how to, just clarifying my question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferrarr View Post
    Is that ok to discuss on these forums now?

    Good grief!!! What would be so Apple naughty suggesting how to get a Mac to boot or use 32-bit or 64-bit architecture code???

    I'm sure even Apple had an article or two for doing so.




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    Windows natively on mac pro 1,1
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    Quote Originally Posted by ferrarr View Post
    Is that ok to discuss on these forums now?
    Sure, why not? The only thing we do not discuss are Hackintoshes.

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    But, Avarobinson is not using Mac OS X on her Mac, only Windows.
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