Catalina 10.15.2 now available for download

[IWT]

Another sort of workaround similar to what Jake mentioned is to do what I do, even though I’m still on Mojave.

That is, create a separate Desktop exclusively for Mail. I have several Desktops for those applications I want to remain open. Whether you like multiple Desktops or just have a separate one for Mail, that would solve your problem ��

Ian

 

[pine man]

This will sound silly but try it anyway; remove the Mail dock icon by dragging it into the middle of an empty desktop, then go to applications and drag a new copy to the dock.


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Makes no difference:-(

 

[ferrarr]

I leave Mail open all the time, in its own space, and swipe to it as needed. I also don't have apps close when I shut down, log out, or restart.

To fix the error, have you tried safe mode?

 

[MacInWin]

I also don't have apps close when I shut down, log out, or restart.

Yes, you do. They close automatically for any and all of those events. They may restart when you reboot or login again, but they are definitely closed when you do those things.

 

[pm-r]

That is, create a separate Desktop exclusively for Mail. I have several Desktops for those applications I want to remain open. Whether you like multiple Desktops or just have a separate one for Mail, that would solve your problem �� QUOTE]


Excuse my MacOS ignorance but how do you "create a separate Desktop"??? regardless of application...
And maybe others would like to know as well.


- Patrick
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[chscag]

Excuse my MacOS ignorance but how do you "create a separate Desktop"??? regardless of application...
And maybe others would like to know as well.

Use "Mission Control" which should be listed in System Preferences. On older versions of macOS, I believe it was called "Spaces".

 

[IWT]

Hi Patrick.

Since at least Sierra, you can choose up to 16 Desktops (I think - never gone that far).

Not to everyone’s taste, of course, and you can allocate apps to one Desktop, or to all, or none etc.

For those that like them, I’ll give you my own setup.

Blank Desktop for 1, Mail on Desktop 2, Safari on Desktop 3, Calendar on Desktop 4, Contacts on Desktop 5.

That means I can keep these apps open all the time because they are so often used. That allows me to work on another Desktop, say, composing a PowerPoint presentation, or playing music, or composing a Word or Pages document.

Then an email comes in, or I want to do an internet search, or check my diary/calendar etc and I just have to click on the appropriate icon and it opens it in its own Desktop.

Not for everyone, as I said, but there as an option.

Ian

 

[Slydude]

Right as usual Charlie. It was called Spaces at least until Mavericks. It was changed to Mission control some time after that. know it was Mission Control by the time of El Capitan.

Edit: I have not used this feature in some time. I used it quite a lot with my Mac Pro which only had one monitor attached. Once I started using a second monitor consistently my use of Spaces/Mission Control dropped to nothing. I could never remember some of the keyboard shortcuts for swapping spaces/creating new ones.

 

[pm-r]

Use "Mission Control" which should be listed in System Preferences. On older versions of macOS, I believe it was called "Spaces".

Thanks Charlie, I never did understand or appreciate any advantage of using those applications and forget that they exist or what they can possibly do.


- Patrick
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[ferrarr]

I could never remember some of the keyboard shortcuts for swapping spaces/creating new ones.

This is where the "swiping" the Magic Mouse or trackpad uses, comes in handy. Right now I have four "Spaces" one one monitor, and two "Spaces" on the other monitor.

 

[Slydude]

Good thought. I didn't think about that until I read your post. Needless to say I've had my Homer Simpson moment for the day.

With two monitors in use now I have less need for Mission Control than I used to but there are still times where that feature would be useful.

 

[pm-r]

I'm wondering though why Apple would change something as simple as clicking on Mail and having it open to show the mailboxes without having to click twice.

Maybe they started reading and actually paying attenuation to the complaints of all the extra clicking in their more recent macOS versions and actually did some changes for a change according to some users complaints??? Maybe some user's wishes with some OS wonder changes can still happen.


- Patrick
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[Rod]

When combined with "hot corners" Spaces becomes an extremely powerful tool on laptops and I use both functions in conjunction with each other constantly on my MBP. By creating a single "hot corner" (top right in my case) to open Spaces I can in one action minimise all active windows on the current desktop and choose whichever one I want to bring to the front, I can create multiple new desktops, move any open windows to another or new desktop or simply create a new one or close an existing one. I would be lost without the real estate this invaluable feature provides.


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[IWT]

When combined with "hot corners" Spaces becomes an extremely powerful tool on laptops and I use both functions in conjunction with each other constantly on my MBP. By creating a single "hot corner" (top right in my case) to open Spaces I can in one action minimise all active windows on the current desktop and choose whichever one I want to bring to the front, I can create multiple new desktops, move any open windows to another or new desktop or simply create a new one or close an existing one. I would be lost without the real estate this invaluable feature provides.


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Absolutely!! That’s spot on for me.

Ian

 

[jga40]

Upgrading to osMac 10.15.2 (aka Catalina)

As the title indicates, Catalina 10.15.2 is now available for download.

Please be sure to backup your Mac with either the free Time Machine app or cloning software. Preferably, both.

Have fun.

As advised by Apple UK, I always upgrade my OS when advised by them. Upgrading to Catalina 10.15., I had to use the upgrader 3 times to get the upgrade. Upgrading to 10.15.2, I lost all my licences to CleanMyMac X. Luckily, thanks to MacPaw, I was able to retrieve all my licences for CleanMyMac X.

I've been a Mac user since 1992, and since it became available I have never used Time Machine, because it is not bootable. I have always used CarbonCopyCloner as you can clone a bootable version.

Personally, I think Apple changes it's OS far too often. For example no sooner get used to Mojave and then they upgrade to Catalina.

In future, I will never upgrade to Apple's next OS, until it's at's at the third release of the OS.

Jim

 

[ferrarr]

I have never used Time Machine, because it is not bootable.

As of Mac OS X Lion (10.7.2) Time Machine is bootable, as long as the Recovery partition is available.

 

[chscag]

I've been a Mac user since 1992, and since it became available I have never used Time Machine, because it is not bootable. I have always used CarbonCopyCloner as you can clone a bootable version.

That is not correct. As Bob stated above, Time Machine is bootable as long as you have a Recovery partition. However, we also recommend cloning software such as Carbon Copy Cloner or SuperDuper.

As advised by Apple UK, I always upgrade my OS when advised by them. Upgrading to Catalina 10.15., I had to use the upgrader 3 times to get the upgrade. Upgrading to 10.15.2, I lost all my licences to CleanMyMac X. Luckily, thanks to MacPaw, I was able to retrieve all my licences for CleanMyMac X.

We do not recommend using using CleanMyMac (any version) as it sometimes cleans too much and is known to cause problems.

In future, I will never upgrade to Apple's next OS, until it's at's at the third release of the OS.

That is certainly your prerogative and waiting until the 2nd or 3rd release may be a good idea.

 

[Rod]

We do not recommend using using CleanMyMac (any version) as it sometimes cleans too much and is known to cause problems.

Okay, I gotta ask, what problems?

 

[chscag]

Rod, we've been over this before. I know that you use the app and also several of our members do also. All you need to do is use your search engine and bring up problems with CleanMyMac. You can see for yourself.