Apple Releases Revised macOS Catalina Supplemental Update

[chscag]

As the title says.... A new revised supplemental update for Catalina has been released.

Please be sure to backup your current installation before downloading and installing the revised update.

Have fun.

 

[MacInWin]

What's next, New and Improved Revised macOS Catalina Supplemental Update? It's all a bit silly. I applaud Apple for addressing issues but the naming is going to run out of adjectives!

 

[pm-r]

What's next, New and Improved Revised macOS Catalina Supplemental Update? It's all a bit silly. I applaud Apple for addressing issues but the naming is going to run out of adjectives!

+1!!! I really feel sorry for the poor average casual Joe Mac user trying to keep their latest Mac OS up to date without being overwhelmed in a bit confused.

Are they providing a clear understanding notice with each update??? Or are they even providing an automatic notice???


- Patrick
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[MacInWin]

EDIT: Nope that was about Safari. So, at least for me Patrick, the answer is "no, no notice." But I'm not running Catalina on this machine, so it may be showing up with a notice for those who are.

 

[chscag]

There was also a hint from Apple that 10.15.1 would be released soon. So you may want to hold off on any supplemental updates to Catalina and instead wait for the latest fixes with 10.15.1.

You know folks... Catalina island is really a beautiful resort island. Shame that its name is being tossed around by the Apple community.

 

[IWT]

This is on a "need to know" basis - so just between ourselves:

This is a revision of a previously modified supplement to an update which was the second part of an initial update that didn't work properly.

Ian

 

[pine man]

According to my Mac I am up to date with no mention of a supplement to the last supplement. Waiting for 10.15.1 seems to be the best option.

 

[Rod]

This is on a "need to know" basis - so just between ourselves:

This is a revision of a previously modified supplement to an update which was the second part of an initial update that didn't work properly.

Ian

Hahaha


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[ferrarr]

I also didn't have a supplemental update for my Late 2014 Mac Mini yesterday? I even restarted to confirm I wasn't missing it.

 

[chscag]

It's been reported that if you installed the first supplemental update to Catalina, the revised supplemental update will not show up as an update.

The only way to install the revised supplemental update is to do a fresh install of Catalina. Yikes!

I think the best plan is to wait for 10.15.1 and forego any revised supplemental update.

 

[Lifeisabeach]

I haven't seen this "revised" update here. I wonder if it was released targeting specific models?

 

[chscag]

I haven't seen this "revised" update here. I wonder if it was released targeting specific models?

Nope. According to Apple it's for everyone running Catalina.

By the way, there is a terminal script that when run will pull down the installer and get the supplemental update with it.

 

[RadDave]

There was also a hint from Apple that 10.15.1 would be released soon. So you may want to hold off on any supplemental updates to Catalina and instead wait for the latest fixes with 10.15.1.

You know folks... Catalina island is really a beautiful resort island. Shame that its name is being tossed around by the Apple community.

Well, I did the first 'supplement' on my two upgraded laptops, but am just going to wait for 10.15.1 (just don't want to waste my time on doing backups on the computers - each requires 5 external devices w/ my routine!) - also, waiting on Susan's 'old' iMac until that .1 release and still a little reluctant (a late 2012 listed as last in line for Catalina upgrade - want to see the experience of others?). Dave

 

[chscag]

Just wanted to point out that in case you wish to download the latest Catalina Installer which includes all the supplemental updates here's how:

Open your terminal.app and type in the following:

softwareupdate --fetch-full-installer

Keep the terminal open while the download proceeds. The Catalina Installer will be downloaded to your Applications folder. If you wish to keep it, copy it to a flash drive. The installer file is a little over 8 GB.

 

[hempomatic]

WOW

I am probably off base here, but this all sounds like huge beta test, and not an update to a working OS that frankly seems to finally work well after lord knows how many updates. Are there actually folks here that NEED a new operating system? Catalina has been out for a couple of weeks and there is already a supplement to a supplemental update that supplements the update to the first supplemental update, AND it requires a re-installation?

As the "poor average casual Joe Mac user" that Patrick alluded to, all I can say is I'm VERY happy I finally resolved some of the issues I've had for the better part of a year with Mojave. I'm well aware that there may be tens, or hundreds of thousands of users that are very happy and have no issues with Catalina (or none they are aware of) and that on a forum like this, we are FAR more likely to hear about problems rather than success stories, but as a casual user it seems that Catalina is simply not ready for prime time.

Would Apple have lost market share if they had possibly spent a little more time fine tuning the OS or perhaps left it in Beta for a few more months? I'm trying to understand the concept, and I'm certainly not bashing Apple. I switched to Mac more than a decade ago and although I've had some issues, I would never even consider going back to Windows.

ken

 

[pine man]

spent a little more time fine tuning the OS or perhaps left it in Beta for a few more months?

I'll probably regret saying this but going back about five years I have always updated to the new OSX when it has been released and not really had many problems.

As far as Catalina goes I don't think it would have made any difference at all if Apple had spent more time with the development. Most of the, minimal, issues I encountered were related to app/software developers waiting until the new OSX was released before updating them - specifically Adobe with Photoshop and Canon with Printer software.

 

[Rod]

Personally I have in the past advised people to wait until at least the second version of any new macOS. These teething problems are not unique to Catalina. That's why my wife is still running iOS 12 on her mobile devices and Mojave on her laptop. So I would suggest that people stay with Mojave for now maybe even until the next macOS is about to be released. By that time Catalina should be about as good as Mojave is today.
I on the other hand like breaking in a new macOS, I have been involved in beta testing for a few years now and I love staying abreast of changes and "advances" in Mac development. It also gives me the opportunity to help others.
I do concede that Apple seem to have tied themselves to a yearly schedule of releasing new OS every year in September and maybe bit off a bit more than they could chew with integrated features across a new iOS, iPad OS, Apple Watch and Apple TV plus the new gaming and entertainment platforms not to mention new hardware. Hopefully we will not see such a diversity of simultaneous upgrades again for a while.
For now Mojave is quite stable, pretty much problem free, still runs 32bit apps, has dark mode and retains the familiar setup and features of iTunes. Additionally it appears to support iOS 13 and iPad OS 13 meaning you can still upgrade your portable devices to take advantage of the new features in them with the exception of Reminders (requires Catalina for full functionality).

 

[hempomatic]

By that time Catalina should be about as good as Mojave is today.
I on the other hand like breaking in a new macOS, I have been involved in beta testing for a few years now and I love staying abreast of changes and "advances" in Mac development.

"should be about as good as Mojave"

You know for a lot of folks that isn't exactly a ringing endorsement ;D

"I on the other hand like breaking in a new macOS"

Boy do WE ever have different skill sets. I get that though. In my case, I remember trying to upgrade from Windows 3.0 to 3.1, lets just say it wasn't without a few tribulations. Thanks to sites like this, and folks like you that like to help troglodytes like me, I tend to muddle through relatively unscathed. Thanks.

ken

 

[chscag]

Boy do WE ever have different skill sets.

Hey Ken:

Some of us like to play with computers while other folks like you have the skills to mess with motorcycles.

Which reminds me, I went to an AllState Claims place not too long ago to collect on a claim, and the claims agent who worked there had a brand new Indian. Was a thing of beauty, and I was really surprised to learn that Indians were still being made and sold.

 

[MacInWin]

The challenge for Apple, and any software developer, for that matter, is that in testing there are so many variations of equipment/software/networking in the real world that it is practically impossible for them to test every combination. So they do the Alpha testing (does it crash just running by itself) and early Beta (does it work with some of OUR software and OUR equipment), then release to the private Beta testers (does it work with YOUR software and YOUR equipment) and finally to public Beta (does it work with a larger set of software/equipment combinations). Unfortunately, too many beta testers don't report back, either because they don't realize what a Beta test is for, or because the assume that someone else will report it and it will be magically fixed. Then the release comes and the number of software/hardware combination explodes to the real world and even more previously unfound bugs crop up. The world then decries how awful Apple is and that it wasn't this way under good ol' Steve (yes, it was, you just don't remember) and how bad it has become (the cry of the ancients of all time).

Are there problems with Catalina? Yes, most assuredly! Could it have been tested more? Yes, but with steadily decreasing returns. Apple can't enforce any standards on public Beta testers, so they have to react quickly with these unfound bugs appear.

Early adopters used to know that any .0 release was just barely out of Beta, and to expect problems. Somehow, we've forgotten that. Don't want problems? Wait for .1, or .2 release.

It's been the bane of developer life ever since Grace Hopper found the very first "bug" back in 1947. And it will be the bane of developers to the end of time. There has never been, and never will be, a bug-free non-trivial piece of software.